Ashley Judd Says She Met With Her Rapist

[lindsaywhit]

That's quite an article, Trixie - thanks for posting the link.

I've always liked Ashley Judd and thought, when she was younger, she would make a great Eve Dallas from the In Death books.

Naomi on the other hand, I only had one exposure to - a cooking show where 4 or 5 celebrity pairs competed - and she was quite a bitch.

All three women have certainly gone through some rough stuff.

[trixie]

^ I know, right? Wynonna's pedo husband, and her daughter...it was like one thing after another with these women. And yeah, I remember that cooking show because Brandi Glanville was on it with Leann's ex-huband Dean lol.

I remember first seeing Ashley on that show Sisters and she was so pretty. Again, kinda amazing she made a name for herself when her mom and Wynonna were off doing their music thing and she was kinda left on her own.

[mostroop]

Thanks for that link Trixie.

[lindsaywhit]

Jul 30, 2022 5:17:33 GMT trixie said:

^ I know, right? Wynonna's pedo husband, and her daughter...it was like one thing after another with these women. And yeah, I remember that cooking show because Brandi Glanville was on it with Leann's ex-huband Dean lol.

I remember first seeing Ashley on that show Sisters and she was so pretty. Again, kinda amazing she made a name for herself when her mom and Wynonna were off doing their music thing and she was kinda left on her own.

I loved that show.  Wonderful cast - Swoosie Kurtz, Sela Ward & Julianne Philips - and Mark Frankel, the star of Kindred: The Embraced, a vampire show just a year or two ahead of its time, and who tragically died in a motorcycle accident after one season. 

[trixie]

I loved that show too, I think Sela Ward was my favorite but now it got me thinking about Julianne Phillips who supposedly disappeared off the face of the earth after this show and of course the Springsteen divorce some years prior. But here she is on google circa 2019. Who knows where she's been. 

[waterslide]

That's so weird. I was just wondering what the hell ever happened to Julianne Phillips. I'd almost forgotten about her.

I also forgot Wynonna was married to a pedo. I do remember Naomi being a judge on a singing show (Duets?) and she didn't seem quite so in-your-face bitchy on that.

[trixie]

^ Yeah and that article seemed to imply that she admitted she knew he was a pedo but thought she could change him. That, and the daughter (who looks like Wynonna judging from her mug shot) did time for dealing meth? Oh, and I'm still like wtf over Ashley saying her mom and stepdad were wildly sexually inappropriate in front of them. How the hell did that go under the radar, at least I never heard it before.

The show Lindsay mentioned was My Kitchen Rules, again I only remember it because of Brandi and Dean, it was in the height of the Leann threads so I did watch some of it.

[waterslide]

Jul 31, 2022 4:14:02 GMT trixie said:

^ Yeah and that article seemed to imply that she admitted she knew he was a pedo but thought she could change him. That, and the daughter (who looks like Wynonna judging from her mug shot) did time for dealing meth? Oh, and I'm still like wtf over Ashley saying her mom and stepdad were wildly sexually inappropriate in front of them. How the hell did that go under the radar, at least I never heard it before.

The show Lindsay mentioned was My Kitchen Rules, again I only remember it because of Brandi and Dean, it was in the height of the Leann threads so I did watch some of it.

I missed the article you posted and just went back and read it.  Wow.  Ashley's and Wynonna's childhoods explain a lot about their adulthoods.  In the 90s, I thought Ashley was gorgeous, and it seemed like she made an effort to distance herself from her mom and sisters by the way she dressed and the way she spoke.  I didn't even realize the connection until it was pointed out to me.  It does explain why Ashley always seems so serious and has always come off like a humorless ice princess.  It's almost like she would over achieve in an area that wasn't singing just to compensate for not having a normal home life.  As for the "wildly sexually inappropriate" situations, that does fuck up kids...I'm not sure when that bit of news came out, but I bet they kept it under the radar out of respect to Naomi and not wanting to "rock the boat" too much.  But fuck, they had some bad parents.

Wynonna's daughter does look Wynonna...if they live in TN, I think that can be either a lucrative, yet illegal and dangerous, job choice or a big fuck you to her mom.  I didn't remember or know that Wynonna married an actual pedo with her own kids in the house and thought she could fix them.  I mean, she lived with her mom and stepfather, and who knows what else, she probably did think she could change him.  That is nuts.  

[loftybike]

I read the article and DAMN! what a messed up upbringing did these girls have. I feel for Naomi, though, her mental health had been failing from an early age on, I guess she tried her best, but couldn't give her kids a stable upbringing.

[grandknight]

Naomi Judd Reportedly Cut Daughters Wynonna and Ashley out of Her Will

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Naomi Judd reportedly left her daughters, singer Wynonna Judd and actress Ashley Judd out of her will. The "Love Can Build a Bridge" singer reportedly left behind an estate worth about $25 million, and she left it all to her husband, Larry Strickland. The documents made no mention of Wynonna or Ashley, according to documents obtained by Radar Online.

"I nominate and appoint my spouse, Larry Strickland, as Executor of my estate," the document reads, according to the outlet. Judd nominated and appointed Daniel Kris Wiatr and Strickland's brother, Reginald Strickland, as co-executives if Strickland "ceases or fails to serve." Wynonna, 58, was reportedly "upset" after learning about the will, especially since they performed as The Judds together for so many years. Wynonna "believes she was a major force behind her mother's success," a source told Radar Online.

Strickland, who married Judd in 1989, was given "full authority and discretion" over the assets of Judd's estate "without the approval of any court," reports Page Six. The musician will also receive "reasonable compensation" for his services. He will also be reimbursed for "expenses, advances, and disbursements, including attorney's and accountant's fees" while overseeing the estate.

The will was dated Nov. 20, 2017. She was of "sound mind and disposing memory" when she signed the documents. Melissa Sitzler, a senior account manager at a Tennessee law firm called Wiatr & Associates, and Abigail Muelder were the witnesses to Judd's signature. They agreed Judd was of "sound mind, memory, and understanding, and not under any restraint or in any respect incompetent to make a Last Will and Testament." Wynonna and Ashley, 54, have not commented on the reports of their mother's will.

Judd died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at her home in Leiper's Fork, Tennessee on April 30. She was 76. Her death was announced the day before she and Wynonna were inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. During the ceremony in Nashville, Wynonna and Ashley both paid tribute to their mother, showing no sign of tension between them. In fact, Wynonna was scheduled to go on a tour with her mother after the Hall of Fame ceremony. The fall tour was reworked as a tribute to Judd, with Wynonna being joined on stage by other country music stars.

Last month, Ashley told the Healing with David Kessler podcast that she and other family members are divided on how to grieve Judd. She and Wynonna have tuck together while acknowledging their different responses to their mother's death. "We can be at the same supper table and recognize, 'Oh, this one's in anger; this one's in denial," Judd said, reports Variety. "This one's in bargaining; this one's in acceptance. I'm in shock right now.' And we don't try to control or redirect or dictate how the other one should be feeling at any particular moment."

Ashley went on to explain that Wynonna is "in a pretty different place than I am right now. And we don't have to be congruent in order to have compassion for each other... I had to let go of this controlling notion that yours needs to look like mine. I mean, that's really egocentric, isn't it?"

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The actress added that she now understands she grew up with a mother who had "undiagnosed and untreated" mental illness. "There are different behavioral expressions, interactions, flights of fancy, choices that she made that I understand were an expression of the disease," Ashley said. "And I understand that and know that she was in pain and can today understand that she was absolutely doing the best that she could, and if she could have done it differently, she would have."

[mostroop]

So what happens to their houses? Do they own them since they were built on the 'family' land, or was the land really Naomi's?

[waterslide]

Naomi was free to leave her money to whomever she wanted, but this feels extra shitty to me. She shot herself in a way that Ashley ended up finding her and I agree with the idea that Wynonna was a "major force behind her mother's success" so it makes Naomi seem like an asshole. I mean, she couldn't have left them something? Like a brooch or a vase or something? They weren't even mentioned.

I know next to nothing about this family other than what I've read in this thread, so what's the deal with Larry Strickland?

[trixie]

Aug 2, 2022 15:35:24 GMT mostroop said:

So what happens to their houses? Do they own them since they were built on the 'family' land, or was the land really Naomi's?

Good question. If you build a house on someone else's land, I would think it belongs to them. Something similar happened when my grandmother sold her house after my grandfather's death and built a new one on my uncle's land. Guess who got the house when she died? She had 2 other children who didn't get shit from that house. 

Hmm, well I would question if she was "of sound mind" since her depression was there in 2017. Not sure if it's true, but I've heard if you want to make it clear that you are intentionally leaving someone out of your will, you should leave them $1. Then it can't be argued that you mistakenly left them out.

I think it's shitty, and extra shitty if the girls didn't know about it or the reasoning behind it (say if Ashley and Wynonna each had more money than their mom and Larry didn't) Was there a will before 2017 and then she changed it? Granted, she was married to Larry for 30+ years but I think most people split the money between spouse and kids if the spouse isn't the bio parent of the kids. 

I did google and saw somewhere that Larry has a daughter from a previous relationship, so does that mean she will inherit it all when Larry dies? He needs to include Naomi's girls in his own will to be fair.

I don't know what their relationship is like with their stepdad, but money changes things, and if it were me, I would at least think about contesting it based on mom's mental illness. 

[albatross]

You don't have to leave someone $1 to disinherit them. According to an article I read, doing so can actually end up costing the estate a lot of money because to give that $1, you have to locate the heir, a check has to be issued, and the executor can't close out the estate until that $1 check clears. While all that is happening, you've got people that are having to do the work of locating, notifying, issuing, etc., and all of those people will be charging for their time, which is going to cost a lot more than $1 and will be coming out of the estate, leaving less for the heirs you actually want to get you money.

The easiest way to disinherit someone is just put a line in the will that acknowledges the relationship but states that you are not leaving them a bequest. That makes the intentions clear without creating the headache and cost of that $1 inheritance. Especially since someone that is disinherited with the $1 could really screw things up by refusing to cash the check. In that case, the estate might have to wait years before that check could be turned over to the state as unclaimed property and the estate could be closed.

[trixie]

Ok. But the point is, you have to mention them in the will, correct? By not doing so, they could contest it.