Ashley Judd Says She Met With Her Rapist

[grandknight]

www.justjared.com/2022/07/26/ashley-judd-says-she-met-with-her-rapist/2/


“I wanted to share that story because there are many ways of healing from grief, and it’s important to remind listeners that I didn’t need anything from him and it was just gravy that he made his amends and expressed his deep remorse, because healing from grief is an inside job,” she continued.

She said that the 1999 rape was “crazy-making” because she “knew better…I was very clear, my boundaries were intact. I was already an empowered, adult feminist woman.”

“And that this could happen under these circumstances was unconscionable, unforeseen, and yet I have had a restorative-justice process with this person out of how replete my soul is today,” she went on to say.

She clarified that she “didn’t need his cooperation…for him to make amends” or “for him to do anything differently in order for me to have a process that was independent from that previous asymmetry of power. Because I had the opportunity to do my trauma work, to do my grief work, to do my healing work, to have all these shifts in my own consciousness and to bond in these female coalition spaces with other survivors.”

[trixie]

Huh?

[waterslide]

^I thought it was just me...

I'm happy for Ashley that she's working on her trauma, but her verbosity has me confused. All I can get out of it is that she forgave her rapist for her own peace of mind and he coincidentally somehow made amends with her on his own? I don't think I understand what she means about being "an empowered, adult feminist woman" or what that has to do with being raped.

[sputnik]

I really hate therapy/social justice speak sometimes

[burnt_toast]

I remember when I was DEEP in therapy and treatment for PTSD and found myself talking in these verbose circles A LOT. I think it had to do with so very much internal dialogue going on, where I was working so hard to communicate with myself that I lost the thread on how to communicate with other people. It was good and reasonable for me, for a time, to do such a thing - but that's what this sounds like. I cannot even fathom giving interviews about it at the time and having it all saved for posterity. As I said in another thread the other day, I'm so very glad I'm not famous.

[Taniwha]

Ashley has always spoken in the biggest, most pretentious words she can muster.

[tulip]

Jul 27, 2022 13:36:12 GMT Taniwha said:

Ashley has always spoken in the biggest, most pretentious words she can muster.

Yes she has! This isn't new at all. 

[burnt_toast]

Ahhhh, so she's a twat lol. I should go look up some old interviews. I'm unfamiliar with her speech patterns and just assumed this was due to the therapy she's been in.

[notoriousmkg]

I don't think she is a bad person. She does use a lot of elaborate psycho jargon, though. She was one of the first people to out Harvey Weinstein and she described the situation with him so perfectly and succinctly that I still remember it years later. "Coercive bargaining."

The thing that is throwing me is that she is saying that this sexual assault took place in 1999? I remember her talking about stuff that happened in her youth, but this was at the peak of her career. The stuff with Harvey happened in 2000 and she is pursuing that in court as a harassment case.

[waterslide]

Jul 27, 2022 12:20:44 GMT burnt_toast said:

I remember when I was DEEP in therapy and treatment for PTSD and found myself talking in these verbose circles A LOT. I think it had to do with so very much internal dialogue going on, where I was working so hard to communicate with myself that I lost the thread on how to communicate with other people. It was good and reasonable for me, for a time, to do such a thing - but that's what this sounds like. I cannot even fathom giving interviews about it at the time and having it all saved for posterity. As I said in another thread the other day, I'm so very glad I'm not famous.

This is what I was thinking...she is using the correct words, but she isn't communicating to her audience (us) at all.  It reads like a journal entry, which would make sense when you're unraveling trauma or whatever issues there are. I understand the inside-your-brain part of it.  It's almost like having to translate what's in your head into "normal" language, but I bet it does serve a purpose in processing trauma.  

Jul 27, 2022 15:07:10 GMT notoriousmkg said:

I don't think she is a bad person. She does use a lot of elaborate psycho jargon, though. She was one of the first people to out Harvey Weinstein and she described the situation with him so perfectly and succinctly that I still remember it years later. "Coercive bargaining."

The thing that is throwing me is that she is saying that this sexual assault took place in 1999? I remember her talking about stuff that happened in her youth, but this was at the peak of her career. The stuff with Harvey happened in 2000 and she is pursuing that in court as a harassment case.

I don't have any reason to think Ashley's a bad person, but for whatever reason, she's always been off putting.  She's always struck me as aloof and judgmental, but a lot of shy and awkward people come across that way, too, and she may just put up the coldness and big words as a wall.  She just strikes me as someone who felt she always had to prove herself and I thought it had something to do with her troubled childhood. Again, it doesn't make her a bad person, but she doesn't give off an approachable vibe.  At any rate, I can't remember why everyone thought she was an asshole back in the day, but I remember that was the going consensus in gossip circles.  

Coercive bargaining is an amazingly succinct way to talk about Weinstein.  

[notoriousmkg]

I have to admit, I'm pretty willing to overlook a lot of her quirkiness because of the other aspects of her that I like. I like that there is a celeb out there who is willing to say she is a feminist and not run away from it. She is very bright and may be a little too pleased with herself -- but I forgive a lot of male celebs for that, too, when they are actually smart. Bill Maher being a really painful example. Also, she has gotten a lot negative commentary for the changes in her appearance -which are not due to PS, but due to the fact that she is on some kind of heavy steroids for Crohn's or something.

[burnt_toast]

You know, I was googling earlier about her to read some interviews and ran across a lot of things about her face. Weirdly, I found a few different explanations from her or her reps and they are kinda all over the place. As early as 2012 is was due to some sinus medication, 2020 due to a leg break/car accident, 2022 due to migraine treatment. I didn't dig in but I find it sad that she keeps having to address this and a tiny tiny bit suspect that the reasons keep changing over the years. But also, WHATEVER, lord let the woman do what she wants/needs to her face.

[trixie]

^ Yeah, it's definitely weird but what makes me think it's not plastic surgery is that in recent years, her appearance kind of changes back and forth from very puffy and distorted back to almost normal. She had that puffy look when she and Wynonna were at the Hall of Fame thing after their mom's death, and then 2 weeks later she did an interview with Diane Sawyer and looked ok. So I do think it's medication related, steroids most likely.




Yes, I know she's crying in the first pic, but it's the same way she looked when people first started talking about her appearance back in 2020.

[waterslide]

Jul 27, 2022 18:26:21 GMT notoriousmkg said:

I have to admit, I'm pretty willing to overlook a lot of her quirkiness because of the other aspects of her that I like. I like that there is a celeb out there who is willing to say she is a feminist and not run away from it. She is very bright and may be a little too pleased with herself -- but I forgive a lot of male celebs for that, too, when they are actually smart. Bill Maher being a really painful example. Also, she has gotten a lot negative commentary for the changes in her appearance -which are not due to PS, but due to the fact that she is on some kind of heavy steroids for Crohn's or something.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. I hate when Bill Maher is "right" sometimes because he's such a fucking asshole.  

Also agree that it doesn't matter why her face changes, she shouldn't have to give a reason for it. 

I saw Ashley in a show in the past fiveish years called Berlin Station and she was a bit puffy but looked good in that.  

[MsDark]

The Judds seem to have a history of troubles collectively and individually. I suppose it's good that she's gotten/getting therapy. I can see people finding this way of speaking annoying. But overall I'm sympathetic. I can't imagine what they're going through currently with Naomi's suicide.