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Post by MsDark on Aug 21, 2022 23:52:22 GMT
^^^ This. I get wanting to sever your kids’ ties with your kids’ father if he continues to be abusive or a drunk but if they’ve gotten treatment and changed their behaviour and it’s been documented and approved by the court, why wouldn’t you want your kids to forgive past behaviour and move in from it and have a healthy relationship with their father, other than vindictiveness/control? Even if you want it for your kids... even if you do things to facilitate it...that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Kids do have minds of of their own and can see through their parents' bullshit all on their own. You can't force these things. Like I said, Jr and his dad's relationship has never been the same. Ex is lucky to have what he does. I hate it for Jr because he used to be close to his dad when he was young. He missed out on a lot when this relationship changed and it's affected him. I did what I could to offset it, like keeping him in the academic environment he was thriving in, with other men who were examples of everything his father wasn't, but it will never take the place of something that can't be replaced.
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Post by chalet on Aug 22, 2022 5:16:28 GMT
I say the same thing about them every time. She's got her own controlling ways and I think she secretly turns into Carrie at the prom (1976 Sissy Spacek) when things aren't going her way. Like said above, she has her children and that's everything. No visible friends. Never even seen talking on a cell phone. Brad hasn't been photographed once with his kids since the split. No pizza or ice cream pap stroll with him and not one movie premiere. Maybe she had it put in writing that she'd be the only one to bring them to a premiere. I've always been a fan of Brad's. Ever since he was on The Actor's Studio program I liked him even more because he's a regular guy. I mean, like a unpretentious dude. Angelina (to me) is anything but a regular gal. They started out as two people on a mission of charity, children, world wide travel and Hollywood glamour and then they blew it up real good. watch Brad (only the non haters ) have a makeup studio designed for his personal makeup artist/friend. I cried. She's done like all of his movies plus Coen Brother's movies. watch.hgtv.com/video/celebrity-iou-hgtv/gifting-a-backyard-pad
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Post by sputnik on Aug 22, 2022 13:26:05 GMT
^^^ This. I get wanting to sever your kids’ ties with your kids’ father if he continues to be abusive or a drunk but if they’ve gotten treatment and changed their behaviour and it’s been documented and approved by the court, why wouldn’t you want your kids to forgive past behaviour and move in from it and have a healthy relationship with their father, other than vindictiveness/control? Even if you want it for your kids... even if you do things to facilitate it...that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Kids do have minds of of their own and can see through their parents' bullshit all on their own. You can't force these things. Like I said, Jr and his dad's relationship has never been the same. Ex is lucky to have what he does. I hate it for Jr because he used to be close to his dad when he was young. He missed out on a lot when this relationship changed and it's affected him. I did what I could to offset it, like keeping him in the academic environment he was thriving in, with other men who were examples of everything his father wasn't, but it will never take the place of something that can't be replaced. Totally. Like I said in my other comment, it’s one thing if the kids themselves don’t want a relationship, quite another if it’s one parent preventing it. And in Jolie’s case the court expressed concern about parental alienation on her part…
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Post by louiswinthorpe111 on Aug 22, 2022 14:19:13 GMT
I have witnessed parental alienation occur between people I know, and I'm not cool with it. Especially because I think kids benefit from having 2 parents.
With that said, I am the child of an alcoholic and can see the BS. However, I gave my dad plenty of chances to make amends and right his wrongs over the years. He never did, even up until the day he died. So who knows if, when and how Brad has tried to make amends.
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Post by greysfang on Jun 2, 2023 15:12:46 GMT
Brad is still whining about Angelina selling their winery. I'm increasingly convinced he's an abusive Narcissistic control freak.
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Post by Sarzy on Jun 2, 2023 16:05:50 GMT
^ Yeah I think he's a prick
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Post by no1novice on Jun 2, 2023 18:59:28 GMT
I think that there are issues with both people in that relationship.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Jun 3, 2023 14:06:21 GMT
I have to admit that the decades of watching these two makes me biased I guess. Brad's image was amiable doofus pot head without a spine and Angelina's was a woman in total control to the point of alleged ruthlessness at times.
I'm struggling to see Pitt as a sociopathic asshole. But this prolonged temper tantrum over the winery isn't a good look.
PS: I totally missed the story that Brad was granted joint custody and then it was revoked. Wow.
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Post by Taniwha on Jun 3, 2023 14:32:22 GMT
The “I’ll buy your half only if you sign this NDA” is so shady.
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Post by trixie on Jun 3, 2023 17:12:02 GMT
I think that there are issues with both people in that relationship. Me too. This is in War of the Roses territory now, they split 7 years ago and are still fighting over everything. So much energy wasted on hating somebody.
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Post by no1novice on Jun 3, 2023 18:41:43 GMT
I have to admit that the decades of watching these two makes me biased I guess. Brad's image was amiable doofus pot head without a spine and Angelina's was a woman in total control to the point of alleged ruthlessness at times. I'm struggling to see Pitt as a sociopathic asshole. But this prolonged temper tantrum over the winery isn't a good look. PS: I totally missed the story that Brad was granted joint custody and then it was revoked. Wow. It was revoked by the courts as they over turned *all* of the judges rulings - except the one where he declared them legally single. I also think that Celebitchy's hysterial "bribe" is way too hyperbolic for me. This story is over a year old - Pitt devalued the vineyard (by £20m) to pay less tax. Hasn't Stoli done anything similar at any time?
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Post by constancespry on Jun 3, 2023 19:02:31 GMT
I truly think she’s a narcissist. I know that word gets thrown around a lot, but I really don’t think she loves her kids the way you’re supposed to. It’s like they’re just little pieces of her that she possesses. It’s hard to explain. That’s nutshell narcissist. Their kids are just an extension of them, and to be used/manipulated as the narcissist parent sees fit.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Jun 3, 2023 20:25:23 GMT
Yeah I thought the same. The whole article used some hotkey words to paint a picture.
As for the gag order - could be shady. Or she has more private info (I mean for sure she does, as does he. They were married) and he doesn't want it hanging over his head as they battle on for the next decade or more.
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Post by no1novice on Jun 3, 2023 22:55:08 GMT
Yeah I thought the same. The whole article used some hotkey words to paint a picture. As for the gag order - could be shady. Or she has more private info (I mean for sure she does, as does he. They were married) and he doesn't want it hanging over his head as they battle on for the next decade or more. Or it could have been a standard NDA that companies have when a party sells them to stop the seller trashing them. Who knows but at this point I don't believe either of them.
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