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Post by panic on Oct 7, 2022 15:39:17 GMT
The claim also alleges, “Pitt choked one of the children and struck another in the face. Some of the children pleaded with Pitt to stop. They were all frightened. Many were crying.” omg, choked then struck. Even as an adult and especially trapped in a plane, i'd be fuckin scared. I'm picturing Brad morphing into Jack Torrence with an axe in his hands yelling, "Danny!" |
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Post by mel on Oct 7, 2022 16:41:49 GMT
I definitely think Maddox was the one Brad choked and Pax was probably the one struck in the face. The fact that those two have wanted nothing to do with Brad since they got off the plane tells me what Angelina alleges is true, plus the fact that Brad only had supervised visitation for so many years. I've seen people say Angelina is lying because Brad was not charged but that's usually the outcome of domestic violence cases, and this was one involving high profile celebs and their kids.
I read Angelina's counter claim and it's crazy how Brad's PR game has formed the narrative. Angelina really should have hired a PR person. I recommend that people read it. Angelina has receipts and the apparent facts about the winery sale, etc. are much different than what the headlines and Brad's "sources" say. Brad is such a dumbass. He claims Angelina is bent on smearing him, but none of this would have come out if he wasn't intent on punishing her with lawsuits.
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Post by dolem on Oct 7, 2022 17:34:04 GMT
Ugg, now I feel like an asshole b/c in the other thread I did somewhat support Pitt and think that it was highly likely Angie was dragging things out and alienating the kids from their dad.
I don't like either of them but this report is really awful, much worse than I would have imagined.
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Post by Pixie on Oct 7, 2022 18:21:14 GMT
I definitely think Maddox was the one Brad choked and Pax was probably the one struck in the face. The fact that those two have wanted nothing to do with Brad since they got off the plane tells me what Angelina alleges is true, plus the fact that Brad only had supervised visitation for so many years. I've seen people say Angelina is lying because Brad was not charged but that's usually the outcome of domestic violence cases, and this was one involving high profile celebs and their kids. That was my thought too, the fact that none of the kids have been near him in all those years is pretty telling to me. Especially since, legally, the older ones could have stayed in contact with him |
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Post by coppercatseye on Oct 7, 2022 20:50:34 GMT
I asked in another thread once if Brad ever sees the kids because he’s never photographed with them. I guess now we know why. They want nothing to do with him.
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Post by caponegirl on Oct 8, 2022 0:53:28 GMT
Has this divorce/settlement/animosity been dragging out longer than the marriage? I feel like this has been going on forever. I don't really have any other point to make, just that this situation is more of a constant in my life than many other things 😂 It's been going on longer than the marriage, but not longer than the relationship. The marriage only lasted about 2 years. But the entire relationship, including the marriage, lasted 12 years. (2004-2016) The twins are 14. If the divorce drags out the length of the relationship they'll be 20. Once they're of age (which I assume is 18) if this shit hasn't already been settled by then I predict it won't take long after. I know people probably don't want to think this could be true since everybody loves the shit out of Brad and thinks he's a great guy, and probably even more people than love Brad think Angie a vindictive crazy-bitch, going all the way back from the time these two initially hooked up (or even long before, when she "stole" SillyBob from Laura Dern) but I really think this is the truth. Unfortunately. I feel for the kids. Especially Maddox. I'm pretty sure he was the one who got the worst of it. Angelina is a She Devil. I think she might have pushed Brad over the edge at some point in their relationship |
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Post by no1novice on Oct 8, 2022 1:01:07 GMT
I asked in another thread once if Brad ever sees the kids because he’s never photographed with them. I guess now we know why. They want nothing to do with him. He has visitation & over night visits too. Initially it was with a custodian but I think that was done with after a time. "Ouderkirk declared the couple divorced in April 2019, but took up the issue of custody as a separate matter and behind closed doors. The vitriol that has peppered this divorce from the beginning started up again in the spring of 2021, as Pitt was tentatively awarded joint custody and Jolie's team criticized Ouderkirk for not allowing the couple's children to testify in the custody proceedings. This was after she filed a petition to disqualify the judge from the case because of the disclosure issues. " He is pathetic & as flavourful as white bread (& can't act): she is mentally ill or a narc or both and don't forget the drugs and dodgy manipulative PR. |
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Post by mel on Oct 8, 2022 1:21:46 GMT
He has some sort of visitation, but I don't think he sees the kids much, especially since they are all 14 or over now. During the Bullet Train promotion, he was claiming that he had a good relationship with the kids but now that this has all come out, he's saying they barely have a relationship, and it's all Angelina's fault.
I don't care if Angelina is the Devil itself, Brad is responsible for Brad.
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Post by no on Oct 8, 2022 7:02:15 GMT
Angelina is a She Devil. I think she might have pushed Brad over the edge at some point in their relationship so that makes it okay for him to beat up their kids then? |
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Post by loftybike on Oct 8, 2022 7:51:07 GMT
Angelina is a She Devil. I think she might have pushed Brad over the edge at some point in their relationship A drunken asshole assaultes his family in a plane where noone can escape, but somehow it's the wife's fault. Sure! I guess it's still not the time where men are held responsible for their behavior.
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Post by Taniwha on Oct 8, 2022 12:55:00 GMT
Seriously, get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. This narrative around Jolie is tiresome. She had her wild youth but for the past 15 years she’s been a boring, vanilla humanitarian. And even if she wasn’t Mother Theresa she didn’t deserve to be abused.
If this becomes Depp/Heard Redux I’m going to puke.
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Post by no1novice on Oct 8, 2022 15:10:02 GMT
Seriously, get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. This narrative around Jolie is tiresome. She had her wild youth but for the past 15 years she’s been a boring, vanilla humanitarian. And even if she wasn’t Mother Theresa she didn’t deserve to be abused. If this becomes Depp/Heard Redux I’m going to puke. In public - she has been chastised by the judge for parental alienation. I just think that both of these suck but I also remember the insulting and abusive press that Jennifer Aniston caught during the Jolie/Pitt hook up especially the "she doesn't want kids" when she had recently suffered a miscarriage. Maybe I just don't trust Jolie and I think that we predicted in the early years that when they split it would be like a nuclear winter. |
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Post by MsDark on Oct 8, 2022 16:03:34 GMT
Brad publicly admitted to having a drinking problem and expressed regret over this incident. There's more than enough evidence now that this event definitely occurred. If anything, likely worse than the above description. I'm sure it was traumatic for the kids. They will never forget it.
If Brad was and continues to be alienated from any of his kids, he's the one who is directly at fault for it. He needs to focus on repairing the relationship. And face the reality that it might be irreparable for some of the kids, especially the older boys who were physically assaulted by him.
What I think would go a long way if he's serious about a future relationship with his kids is a genuine apology to their mother and making amends to her as well. What he's done by holding assets hostage, making things difficult for her legally, letting his lawyers and his PR throw her under the bus in the press and paint her as the vindictive one at fault for things that are his own fault in order to save face in the public eye for the purposes of keeping his own career/reputation intact are the exact opposite of what he should be doing if he wants to salvage a relationship with his kids. Especially as they get older and can read about all this.
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Post by sputnik on Oct 8, 2022 17:03:32 GMT
He has some sort of visitation, but I don't think he sees the kids much, especially since they are all 14 or over now. During the Bullet Train promotion, he was claiming that he had a good relationship with the kids but now that this has all come out, he's saying they barely have a relationship, and it's all Angelina's fault. I don't care if Angelina is the Devil itself, Brad is responsible for Brad. Brad publicly admitted to having a drinking problem and expressed regret over this incident. There's more than enough evidence now that this event definitely occurred. If anything, likely worse than the above description. I'm sure it was traumatic for the kids. They will never forget it. If Brad was and continues to be alienated from any of his kids, he's the one who is directly at fault for it. He needs to focus on repairing the relationship. And face the reality that it might be irreparable for some of the kids, especially the older boys who were physically assaulted by him. What I think would go a long way if he's serious about a future relationship with his kids is a genuine apology to their mother and making amends to her as well. What he's done by holding assets hostage, making things difficult for her legally, letting his lawyers and his PR throw her under the bus in the press and paint her as the vindictive one at fault for things that are his own fault in order to save face in the public eye for the purposes of keeping his own career/reputation intact are the exact opposite of what he should be doing if he wants to salvage a relationship with his kids. Especially as they get older and can read about all this. this. i think angelina definitely has her issues but i think she's a good mother and is devoted to her kids, maybe even too much. and she's probably a massive control freak when it comes to the kids but again, not an excuse for his behaviour. and i can totally believe this happened, brad has admitted to having a drinking problem and was vocal about getting therapy and treatment for it, which i'm sure in part was to rehab his image but whatever. i could see the plane incident being more of an isolated incident than part of a pattern, but one bad enough that he still would have a shitload of work to do to rebuild the relationship with his kids, especially the 4 younger ones who would probably be more inclined to forgive him. but from what i've read i doubt he's a very involved father. and when he was with angelina i have no trouble believing she was the parent and he was the cool dad that was fun but only as involved as he wanted to be and his true interest lies with the winery, his furniture, art, whatever passion he's pursuing in that moment. and maybe part of that was because angelina was a control freak, god knows i've seen enough of this exact dynamic in real life and i don't think it's a coincidence that type of woman chooses to have kids with a man like that (subconsciously probably) that she will never have to delegate any of the control of the kids to. that was basically my family dynamic and to this day my siblings and i need to have strong boundaries with my mom because even though we're grown up she's still overbearing and controlling, or tries to be lol but after the split, it's up to him to step up and be a parent when he does have the kids but from what i've read he basically goes out to dinner with the smaller ones when they're all in LA but he's not involved in the day to day parenting. |
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Post by Taniwha on Oct 8, 2022 17:20:29 GMT
Seriously, get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. This narrative around Jolie is tiresome. She had her wild youth but for the past 15 years she’s been a boring, vanilla humanitarian. And even if she wasn’t Mother Theresa she didn’t deserve to be abused. If this becomes Depp/Heard Redux I’m going to puke. In public - she has been chastised by the judge for parental alienation. I just think that both of these suck but I also remember the insulting and abusive press that Jennifer Aniston caught during the Jolie/Pitt hook up especially the "she doesn't want kids" when she had recently suffered a miscarriage. Maybe I just don't trust Jolie and I think that we predicted in the early years that when they split it would be like a nuclear winter. Is this judge Oudenkirk? Because he’s been dismissed for not revealing business dealings with Pitts lawyers. He’s also the one who wouldn’t let the kids testify. Hinky. It was awful in gossip land when these two got together, I agree. I just always felt like she bore the brunt of it all, when he was the one who most wronged Aniston. This evil succubus split up America’s Sweethearts. There are still people out there who think they should get back together, and Anniston was happy to play along with a backstage reunion when he was campaigning for his Oscar. It’s just infuriating to me that he’s still Hollywood’s Golden Boy, and a gross corner of the internet is now smearing Jolie just like they did Heard. There are plenty of reasons to not like Jolie. But I believe her, and fuck him. |
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