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Post by czb on Feb 3, 2023 22:31:57 GMT
you mean the chick from gossip girl? kelly rutherford?
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Post by kittylady on Feb 3, 2023 22:41:57 GMT
you mean the chick from gossip girl? kelly rutherford? I'd forgotten about that clusterfuck.
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Post by lindsaywhit on Feb 4, 2023 13:50:32 GMT
I don't understand this at all. Your kids should be more important to you than this. Shit, your own peace of mind should be more important. There is no way I'd want to be duking it out with ExMrD for eternity. Even ExMrD was able to get over himself enough to realize that he was in a no-win situation (with the potential to affect him way more negatively than me) by continuing to be a asshole and fight things just to be petty. He chose wisely. This chick is just goddamned looney tunes. She's gonna be her own worst enemy. I think faithanne and pecanpie nailed it - she's a narcissist and nothing is more important to her than herself and she's got a whole load of crazies on social media backing her every nutty move to the hilt and egging her on all the way. I know that narcissism armchair diagnoses get thrown around a lot these days but I think she's the real deal. Plus there's a lot of rumours that she's a messy drunk on top of it all. It's a very volatile and very worrying combination. If all that is true it's insane that she has custody - she is a danger, not only to herself or even Ioan - but to those girls. It is kind of crazy they are with her, isn't it?
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Post by MsDark on Feb 4, 2023 16:05:39 GMT
That's the one thing that gives me a little bit of the side eye that some of this shit might be overblown in the tabs. She's got custody.
I have a sneaking suspicion that this dude is pretty toxic himself.
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Post by kittylady on Feb 4, 2023 20:43:09 GMT
That's the one thing that gives me a little bit of the side eye that some of this shit might be overblown in the tabs. She's got custody. I have a sneaking suspicion that this dude is pretty toxic himself. I think the thing in her favour right now is that she was the primary caretaker during the marriage and after the split. Courts aren't going to jump in and take the kids away from her unless it can be shown that she's an immediate threat to their physical safety. From what I've read/heard (and if any legal eagle members can chip in here with their take then please do!) proving parental alienation is an incredibly long and difficult process and will involve almost endless hearings and assessments of all parties involved with a view to facilitating regular contact with both parents. Considering that Alice and her lawyers have already managed to push the hearing for increased visitation back another four or five months then this is likely to be a very, very long fight that might only end because the children have aged out. The Rutherford case rumbled along for several years until she publicly fucked herself by getting her ex deported. That's not to say that Ioan isn't toxic himself, only that he's coming across like a beginner going up against a Grand Master.
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Post by MsDark on Feb 4, 2023 21:57:23 GMT
A part of me thinks: If she's restraining-order/parental-alienation nuts why on earth did he bug out leaving his poor kids stuck with her?
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Post by no1novice on Feb 4, 2023 22:21:08 GMT
Because he was more interested in sticking his dick in some young new thing than looking after his kids.
At any point he could have applied for an order to have the kids since she is dangerous but he hasn't.
They both better start working hard as those poor kids are going to have lots & lots of therapy.
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Post by MsDark on Feb 4, 2023 23:34:42 GMT
Ah okay. So he's a piece of shit himself. If she was already nuts, that probably took her to a new level.
It's unfortunate he married a crazy bitch, but protecting your kids should come BEFORE your dick. You've got plenty of time to stick it wherever you want once you get your kids and yourself settled.
I feel for these poor kids. Neither of their parents seem to give an adequate fuck about them.
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Post by no1novice on Feb 5, 2023 3:31:30 GMT
She is also claiming that she has no $$$ & that has been fairly consistent complaint all the way through. I've seen a lot of her sm posts and yeah she comes across as crazy but in situations like this I'm struck by the
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Post by czb on Feb 5, 2023 3:40:25 GMT
or
1. he was advised he would lose 2. or he didn't realize that she was *that* crazy
just suggestions. obviously i have no intel.
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Post by pecanpie on Feb 5, 2023 4:33:12 GMT
That's the one thing that gives me a little bit of the side eye that some of this shit might be overblown in the tabs. She's got custody. I have a sneaking suspicion that this dude is pretty toxic himself. She has custody by default, but it hasn’t been decided legally. He has asked for 50/50, which she has refused while complaining that she’s a single mom all on her own. She’s interfered with any visitation since long before the girlfriend came on the scene; she used to blame his mother. She’s also lying about support. He’s been paying for everything since he left and if he wasn’t, you would think she would have asked for emergency support. She has been blowing through it with constant ordered in food and Ebay purchases. I didn’t know a thing about either of them until she made that ridiculous tweet about how he was leaving them (not her). She’s encouraged the oldest daughter to steal from him (she purchased hundreds of dollars of shit on Amazon with his account and without his permission) and the kid hacked his instagram (which she seemed in on) and posted homophobic slurs on his account. He also started this new relationship a year after they broke up. She seems to be the problem here. And if she is convicted of violating the restraining order (she’s facing two counts) then it will be hard for her to have even 50/50 custody based on California law. This whole thing started with collaborative divorce but she refused to go along with it so now it’s basically in the hands of the courts. Stupid waste of money. Tattle has a good wiki with all the legal documents. They are a sad read because those kids are the ones who are suffering.
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Post by sassiness on Feb 5, 2023 8:59:29 GMT
That's the one thing that gives me a little bit of the side eye that some of this shit might be overblown in the tabs. She's got custody. I have a sneaking suspicion that this dude is pretty toxic himself. Same. Yes, the family law system in every country is not perfect but if she was as unhinged as the media portrays, she wouldn't have full care of the children.
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Post by no1novice on Feb 5, 2023 9:19:06 GMT
Good point too ^ or 1. he was advised he would lose 2. or he didn't realize that she was *that* crazy just suggestions. obviously i have no intel. 100%!
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Post by MsDark on Feb 5, 2023 18:22:40 GMT
Maybe it's me, but I'm getting a whiff of covert narc vibes from him. Those kinds of people are able to maintain some veneer of stability on the surface. But do a lot of damage behind the scenes. They get away with more because they're masterful at manipulating people and situations and deflecting blame and coming away unscathed (or less so). When they hook up with someone like this chick, who's already a bit crazy, making them even crazier (which by contrast makes them look like the put upon victim to the world) is like shooting fish in a barrel.
I think he'd be fine with only seeing those kids when it was convenient for him if she kept her mouth shut publicly and in the press and he didn't have to deal with any bullshit from her (or the kids, by proxy) that made him look like the bad guy.
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Post by loftybike on Feb 5, 2023 19:07:26 GMT
My theory is that assholes get together and if he'd be decent, he wouldn't have been involved with her for so long. Team poor kids here.
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