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Post by constancespry on Jun 30, 2022 18:12:42 GMT
I'm going to keep saying it. Allowing Trump to get into office was the biggest own goal for apathetic voters who are feminists, environmentalists, pro-union, pro-choice supporters, Affordable Care Act supporters, privacy advocates, or Miranda rights supporters. I agree. But I really resent that those of us who get out there and vote in every.single.election will be equally negatively affected. |
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Post by kittylady on Jun 30, 2022 23:00:45 GMT
I'm going to keep saying it. Allowing Trump to get into office was the biggest own goal for apathetic voters who are feminists, environmentalists, pro-union, pro-choice supporters, Affordable Care Act supporters, privacy advocates, or Miranda rights supporters. I said at the time that it didn't matter if you didn't like Hillary, people should hold their noses and vote for her to keep Chump out. Sometimes you have to choose whoever will do the least damage in the time they are allotted, which is why I got so angry with people during the UK elections when idiots were talking about voting for no hopers, spoiling their ballots or not bothering at all. All that kind of crap does is greatly increase the chances of getting some fuckwit like Chump or BloJo and spreading the misery around. |
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Post by tulip on Jun 30, 2022 23:06:18 GMT
...and they screwed with Native American/Federal jurisdiction in Oklahoma, giving it certain rights back to the state regarding crimes committed in NA lands by non-NA people.
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Post by no on Jul 2, 2022 21:25:32 GMT
10-year-old girl denied abortion in OhioA 10-year-old girl was denied an abortion in Ohio after the Supreme Court ruled last week that it was overturning Roe v. Wade, demonstrating the tangible impacts that the high court’s decision is having on patients seeking access to the medical procedure. A child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indiana, after receiving a 10-year-old patient who was six weeks and three days pregnant, the Indianapolis Star reported. That patient is now heading west to Indiana given that an abortion ban in Ohio, which prohibits the medical procedure when fetal cardiac activity begins, around six weeks, had become effective quickly after the high court issued its decision. While several groups filed a lawsuit seeking to block the state law from taking effect on Wednesday, an emergency stay of the abortion ban was rejected by the Ohio Supreme Court on Friday, meaning that the ban can be upheld as the case is reviewed, the Cincinnati Enquirer reported. Ohio is among a number of states that have rolled back abortion access since the Supreme Court eliminated the constitutional right to an abortion. Some laws have been paused pending legal challenges. But Indiana could soon find itself passing its own abortion law later this month given that a special session has been scheduled for later in July and the legislature is expected to touch on a ban on the medical procedure, WFYI reported. -- fucking WOW.
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Post by trixie on Jul 2, 2022 21:52:29 GMT
Yeah, I was thinking she better hurry up and get to Indiana because I can't imagine it will be legal much longer. I'm guessing Illinois and Michigan will soon be the only hope in the Midwest.
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Post by no on Jul 2, 2022 22:30:04 GMT
Yeah, I was thinking she better hurry up and get to Indiana because I can't imagine it will be legal much longer. I'm guessing Illinois and Michigan will soon be the only hope in the Midwest. as it stands right now abortion is also guaranteed in the state of Kansas but it looks like they're going to be voting on that issue in August. their current governor is a democratic woman but I think the otherwise republican government there tends to override her a lot anyway, so it's almost assured that they'll illegalize abortion within the next month or so. |
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Post by chalet on Jul 3, 2022 5:03:07 GMT
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2022/jun/28/tracking-where-abortion-laws-stand-in-every-stateNot to derail the thread, but I read that doctors are receiving more than the average amount of vasectomy calls. I'd like to see a push in advertising for more condom usage. When AIDS began to reach the straight community there was a huge increase in condom usage. Everyone I knew had condoms in their wallet, handbag and bathroom. It was a death sentence then, so the "I hate the way the condom feels" went by the wayside for quite awhile. Then if people were in a committed relationship they'd get tested and keep using the condoms or go onto something else. Can I ask a general question? Not personal info about your own children. Look at the condom usage on the list below. Is this generation using them? Are people teaching their son's that it's their responsibility too? I've never asked my friend's about what their kids used. Just did some reading. It looks like for teen girls the IUD is often recommended first. Then hormone injections and the pill. Data from the 2017–2019 National Survey of Family Growth In 2017–2019, 65.3% of women aged 15–49 in the United States were currently using contraception. The most common contraceptive methods currently used were female sterilization (18.1%), oral contraceptive pills (14.0%), long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs) (10.4%), and the male condom (8.4%). Use of LARCs was higher among women aged 20–29 (13.7%) and 30–39 (12.7%) compared with women aged 15–19 (5.8%) and 40–49 (6.6%). Current condom use was higher among Hispanic women (10.5%) and non-Hispanic black women (11.0%) compared with non-Hispanic white women (7.0%). With higher education, female sterilization declined and use of the pill increased.
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Post by Pixie on Jul 3, 2022 9:50:36 GMT
10-year-old girl denied abortion in OhioA 10-year-old girl was denied an abortion in Ohio after the Supreme Court ruled last week that it was overturning Roe v. Wade, demonstrating the tangible impacts that the high court’s decision is having on patients seeking access to the medical procedure. A child abuse doctor in Ohio contacted Dr. Caitlin Bernard, an obstetrician-gynecologist in Indiana, after receiving a 10-year-old patient who was six weeks and three days pregnant, the Indianapolis Star reported. That patient is now heading west to Indiana given that an abortion ban in Ohio, which prohibits the medical procedure when fetal cardiac activity begins, around six weeks, had become effective quickly after the high court issued its decision. So pro-life that they'll let a 10 year old potentially die of (forced) birth giving. lots of statsI mean, it may be a bit unfair to use that link as this is about teenage pregnancies in developing countries, but still. |
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Post by MsDark on Jul 3, 2022 17:51:31 GMT
So what of the male who impregnated this 10 year old?
If they can take away the bodily autonomy of all women why can't we forcibly sterilize a rapist?
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Post by Pixie on Jul 3, 2022 18:41:45 GMT
Because apparently GOD wanted that man to impregnate that child so that her child could be born. So it's all God's will, let's not intervene and take drastic decisions about that man's body, right?
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Post by notoriousmkg on Jul 3, 2022 19:35:24 GMT
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2022/jun/28/tracking-where-abortion-laws-stand-in-every-stateNot to derail the thread, but I read that doctors are receiving more than the average amount of vasectomy calls. I'd like to see a push in advertising for more condom usage. When AIDS began to reach the straight community there was a huge increase in condom usage. Everyone I knew had condoms in their wallet, handbag and bathroom. It was a death sentence then, so the "I hate the way the condom feels" went by the wayside for quite awhile. Then if people were in a committed relationship they'd get tested and keep using the condoms or go onto something else. Can I ask a general question? Not personal info about your own children. Look at the condom usage on the list below. Is this generation using them? Are people teaching their son's that it's their responsibility too? I've never asked my friend's about what their kids used. Just did some reading. It looks like for teen girls the IUD is often recommended first. Then hormone injections and the pill. Data from the 2017–2019 National Survey of Family Growth In 2017–2019, 65.3% of women aged 15–49 in the United States were currently using contraception. The most common contraceptive methods currently used were female sterilization (18.1%), oral contraceptive pills (14.0%), long-acting reversible contraceptives (LARCs) (10.4%), and the male condom (8.4%). Use of LARCs was higher among women aged 20–29 (13.7%) and 30–39 (12.7%) compared with women aged 15–19 (5.8%) and 40–49 (6.6%). Current condom use was higher among Hispanic women (10.5%) and non-Hispanic black women (11.0%) compared with non-Hispanic white women (7.0%). With higher education, female sterilization declined and use of the pill increased. We told our son to wear one. He had/has a very steady gf and I think there is no way they were not active - they were at a beach house with a bunch of other friends for a week. None of them got COVID and hopefully none of them got an STD or pregnant. Of the 18 kids there, though, I think our son and gf were one of only two couples. |
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Post by notoriousmkg on Jul 3, 2022 19:38:19 GMT
Because apparently GOD wanted that man to impregnate that child so that her child could be born. So it's all God's will, let's not intervene and take drastic decisions about that man's body, right? This is totally at the crux of the problem for America. Secular countries are saying, "Enough of this bullsh*t." But America is still religious and because they have a spiritual view of the process of gestation - every stage is holy/God-ordained/must be protected. It's really not an ethical thing.
I think that convicted rapists who have impregnated women could have something like a forcible vasectomy. At least, if they ever get out of prison, they can't knock up some other victim and compound the injury in a country where half the people have little understanding of what a rape victim is going through.
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Post by constancespry on Jul 3, 2022 20:47:44 GMT
Because apparently GOD wanted that man to impregnate that child so that her child could be born. So it's all God's will, let's not intervene and take drastic decisions about that man's body, right? I recently watched an interview with a forced birther and she claimed she does not oppose abortion for religious reasons, she just feels it is “wrong”. The interviewer then asked her what if a 12 year old is impregnated by rape, would she support abortion for the girl? And she replied absolutely not, it’s not the innocent fetus’s fault, and the girl should carry out the pregnancy. Followed by: “My FAITH tells me abortion is never the right answer. “ So, thanks to the extreme court, we can all look forward to being governed by a religious extremist minority. |
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Post by MsDark on Jul 3, 2022 21:30:18 GMT
Yeah all these religious fucks who spout this shit suddenly change their minds once it happens to their child. Ask anyone who provides medical care.
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Post by kittylady on Jul 4, 2022 0:19:06 GMT
The system is going to be overwhelmed with babies, especially babies with disabilities and ethnic minority babies who are harder to adopt. That's going to cost the Red States a lot of money. I'm calling it now - if these bans manage to stay in place for a few years then I can see laws being passed where individual States can go after birth mothers for 18 years (or more) of financial support for any child they choose to give up who is not immediately adopted.
After all, what's the point in punishing sluts if they just go and sign their unwanted, forced children away? Not today lady! The Red State Skyfairy still wants his pound of flesh from you!
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