Johnny Depp’s $50m defamation lawsuit against Amber Heard

[MsDark]

If Johnny was a normal, accomplished middle aged actor and wasn't a life-long junkie with an addled brain, the extent of this relationship would have been an affair/fuck fest that ended by the time the movie wrapped (or at most, once the premiere circus was over). Or the second she started any craziness.

There wouldn't have been a whole marriage.

Idgaf how crazy she is, it's time for a grown ass man to take some responsibility for the mess he's let his life become, a direction he's been headed for decades now, with only a few years pause while he was with Vanessa (and I fully believe keeping him on the rails was a full time job for her).

I do not see Johnny "back on top" for long even if he manages to parlay this latest popularity boost into a few movie roles. Not unless he finally gets clean. Or hires a baby-sitter/fixer/minder to keep him somewhat functional, out of trouble and making it to the sets on time. One that he isn't fucking.

He could definitely use a conservator.

[no1novice]

Jun 1, 2022 2:55:31 GMT kittylady said:

May 31, 2022 1:39:05 GMT angeli said:

I don't like either one of them and haven't been following the trial. But a question for those of you who have been following it -- who do you think is going to win the trial? Which one has done a better job of proving their case?

For me it's obviously Depp, but not for the reason that people may think. Yes, I like his films and think he's a very good actor but when it comes to gut instinct based on personal experience it's Heard that sets my radar pinging and always has. Following the trial has only underlined it for me.  Too many times I found myself getting the skin prickles from her.  She reminds me a great deal of my ex in both attitude, falsity and overall demeanour. Her constant need to further garnish her allegations with every telling and the suggestions that she has directly lifted some of them from other people's experiences (such as her former assistant's) doesn't help her case with me either.

May 31, 2022 12:21:54 GMT no1novice said:

I think that they are both toxic.
The podcast I posted she thought that it might find for JD with no $.
Whatever the answer I do believe that thousands of abuse survivors have and will continue to be hurt by this whole situation.

I agree that it will harm DV survivors but it should also be a wake up call about how female on male DV isn't taken as seriously.  Heard admitted on tape that she was violent towards Depp, that he tried to walk away from her to escape the situation. She taunted him that nobody would believe him.  And that is all too common for female on male abuse along with too many people treating it as a joke, acting like the male should be ashamed of himself for "getting beaten up by a girl". It's also all too common for female abusers to be treated less harshly than a man would be. Again, Heard undeniably committed physical abuse and not just against Depp but is held up as a victim by many, a heroine of #MeToo while Depp is instantly dropped from several film roles.  There was another young actress a few years ago who had beat up her boyfriend (Emma Stone? My recollection is fuzzy Edit: It was Emma Roberts, not Emma Stone) but everyone brushed over it and moved on.  British 'celebrity' Kelly Brook bragged in her autobiography about how she had punched two ex-boyfriends (Jason Statham and Danny Cipriani) and laughed about it in interviews yet she still works, still has a contract with Slimfast to appear in their adverts, still pops up whenever a booby c-lister that'll get some dad's blood pressure up is required.  And then there's Simpson's voice actor Phil Hartman who was shot dead by his abusive wife before she turned the gun on herself. 

I am a survivor but so are the two men that I'm closer to than anyone else. One has a scar running down his arm where an ex attacked him with a knife and suffers from back problems and headaches after she pushed him down some stairs. The other was also threatened with a knife, punched, had things thrown at him and pushed through a glass door. Neither of them ever hit back, not only because it goes against everything they believe in but also because they knew that the second they did anything to physically defend themselves they would be the ones in deep, deep shit.  And these guys aren't isolated cases among the men that I know. I've seen women hit men in public on a night out and be scooped up by their girlfriends and soothed and told "he deserved it babe, don't worry about it" and I've known women who haven't had a finger laid on them in their life pull the "he was paranoid and controlling and abusive to me!" card as a way of downplaying their own wrongdoings like cheating on her husband and being furious that he dared throw her out and file for divorce, or having being caught with tens of thousands of debt, some of it fraudulent, after massive gambling and shopping sprees. And people rushed to find reasons why what they were claiming was true because they were women and "men are dirty dogs who deserve a taste of their own medicine..."

/Rantifesto over. I'll try to to go back to keeping my head down again now.

Thanks Kitty. You’ve pinpointed somethings here that I haven’t been able to put in to words.
I have seen the things reported and I admit I do think that JD is an abuser but I also don’t think that AH is a perfect little angel. Both are toxic.
I think that JD needs detox & a stay at a facility; he was going off the rails long before AH was even born.
JD is the architect of his own downfall, the drink/drugs, lack of ability to remember his lines, profligate spending habits, lack of personal hygiene, weird personified of Ctn Jack Sparrow/the dead one from the Rolling Stones…..

I think that she has harmed the #metoo movement that is real and valid.
I also think that some of the things that she has accused JD of are real.

Also I 100% agree about F2M violence and how it’s not taken seriously. Some of it is the lad-culture and some of it is “toxic femininity” - the gangs of women backing up the abusive friend- who mostly likely is the bully in their “friend” group.

[dksnj]

Jury has reached a verdict. It will be read at 3 pm ET

[waterslide]

I saw that Johnny won't even be present for the reading of the verdict because he has a film commitment in the UK.

kittylady Just wanted to say that I totally get what you're saying about Amber giving off bad vibes (I always felt like that, too, even before any of this mess) and that the same respect should be paid to male victims of abuse. I think this case is difficult to talk about because it really is so polarizing and I kind of feel like if I say something positive about one person, then it means I'm completely in their court or that I'm taking one side over the other when I'm not. I can only speak for myself about that, but I feel like I'm being wishy-washy when I really am just trying to be fair. I know that a lot of my seeming anti-Depp sentiment is bubbling over from so many people on social media not taking one word of Amber's seriously and then dragging her over every little word she uses and face she makes and it's like some kind of zombie groupthink cult of Jack Sparrow. No one at the board is doing that, but I think seeing it elsewhere has put me on edge.

[czb]

i think they both suck. the difference is he is a million times more talented. she is a terrible actress and was lucky to be cast in any movie. no charisma or screen presence.

but i also hate how she is getting roasted on SM.

[waterslide]

Judging by Amber's IMDb, I have apparently seen a number of her movies but I can't remember her in any of them. I saw a trailer that she was in and even those few moments were terrible.

The judge sent the jury back to fill in the paperwork regarding damages.  But someone was defamed.

[Sarzy]

How could they forget to fill out the damages? Anyway it sounds like Johnny has won to me

[waterslide]

Yeah, I don't know how they forgot. I guess they're supposed to enter in at least $1 and they're not sure if they left it blank or if they filled in $0, but it's probably the former.

[trixie]

Oh man here we go...Johnny wins, proved all elements of defamation. $10m damages, $350k punitive damages.

Amber proved one element and gets $2m, no punitive. So Amber owes Johnny 8.3m. Holy crap.

[waterslide]

It's hard to believe that the jury believes there was absolutely no abuse by Johnny towards Amber or that there was enough evidence of abuse. I would have understood if they found against both of them. It's also hard to believe that she is going to have to pay $8.3 million to him.

I also wish it were hard to believe that people are outside of the court house dressed as pirates, but here we are.

[trixie]

I was surprised they found malice. And they actually awarded $5m in punitive damages, but it was reduced to $350k, the statutory maximum. SMH.

I'm glad Depp wasn't there so I didn't have to see his smug face.

[chocolate8]

Terrible result. Just terrible. For abuse victims generally and in this particular situation not to mention in relation to freedom of speech.

While I agree she isn't the perfect victim and she might well have been abusive as well as toxic - Johnny Depp has dragged her to court 2x and forum shopped to continue abusing her. I wonder if he is satisfied now and how long it will be until he abuses or is violent toward another person.

I think Johnny could hit her in front of a crowd and it would be totally her fault.

They both suck, he sucks a bit more in my opinion.

[greysfang]

I’m glad he won and now I’m glad this shitshow is over.

[anamishana]

Welp I was expecting it would be a stalemate but I'm not surprised! I'm also hoping that this is the end of this shitshow however I think Evan Green and Manson case doesn't bode well.

[icepik]

I don't think this verdict, at all, effects REAL victims of abuse. Amber was/is full of shit and the evidence proved that. They had a horrible relationship and I am not one to have ever sided with Johnny Depp on anything because I have never liked the guy, but she concocted this abuse story. She lied numerous times on the stand, her pictures were proven to be doctored and listening to that cunt on those recordings made me want to punch her in the face. Saying Depp hit her in the face with his fist full of rings and takes a picture... of a bruise on her arm and her face looks fine. Going to get the retraining order with a painted on bruise, calling TMZ and then laughing it up bruise free the next day. Adding the sexual abuse allegation on top of it. And, using the #Metoo movement. GTFO. She's the reason victims are some times not believed. She's the one that has a history of abusing people. Depp is most certainly not a saint, but where is his history of abusing anyone, other than himself? She is without doubt a psychopath.

I sort of believed the bitch on the way into the courtroom, after watching the entire court case...ahhhhhh, hell no!

I've never abused anyone in my life, but had she done to me all the things she did to him, I'd probably be in jail.