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Post by panic on Jul 11, 2023 17:11:08 GMT
Very interesting. You just never know with people. That list makes him sound like he's trying to change her settings like she's a cell phone.
He might as well say, "You're my property now so I get to control your life."
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Post by no1novice on Jul 11, 2023 17:19:15 GMT
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Do these fuckers have a playbook? I swear I have had the same text. I don't recall responding, not even to say the you do you stuff. I do recall I blocked him & he accused me of stalking him to a mutual friend - after I saw him driving & reversing past my house for a 2nd look.
And, of course ...
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Post by sputnik on Jul 11, 2023 19:00:32 GMT
^^^^ so he denies sexting her in the last 6 months and when she calls him out on his lie and provides the receipts (screen caps) she's the bad guy for violating him and adding to his trauma? and in addition to megan mccain, candace owen was also defending him, of course. i'm shocked piers morgan hasn't weighed in with his brilliant insights into how woke culture has claimed another victim ... and there's more: Jonah Hill Accused of Preying on ‘Zoey 101’ Actor Alexa Nikolas When She Was a Teen
Nikolas was 16 (and Hill was 24) when he allegedly forced himself on her at a party. By Kylie Cheung Photo: Matthias Nareyek/Getty Images, Alexa Nikolas/Instagram Shortly after Jonah Hill’s ex-girlfriend accused him of emotional abuse over the weekend, former child actor and Zoey 101 star Alexa Nikolas accused Hill of assaulting her years ago. In a series of tweets, Nikolas accused Hill of forcing himself on her at a party hosted by one of Hill’s friends, actor Justin Long, when she was just 16. According to the AV Club, given Nikolas’ current age, the party must have taken place around 2008. Hill would have been 24 at that time. “I just gotta say when I was 16 I got invited to a house party at [Long’s] house where he was living with some lame predator actor from CSI Miami,” Nikolas wrote, referring to Long’s then-roommate Jonathan Togo. Nikolas claims Togo “was sleeping [with] *aka assaulting a minor* a friend of mine that was also 16 or 17” at the time. Nikolas alleged that the adult men at the party knew she and her friends were minors, and that they “were all pretty wasted because of course the predators were feeding us minors a bunch of alcohol.” She noticed Hill “seemed to have his eyes on me,” and then approached her, instructing her to follow him to his car outside for a cigarette. “They were all aware I was 16,” she wrote. After going to Hill’s car with him, Nikolas said he didn’t offer the cigarette he’d promised, and “as we walked back to the door I asked him for it and he said nothing but slammed me to the door and shoved his tongue down my throat.” Nikolas recalls being “appalled,” and said she “pushed him off of me and ran inside.” “Hey Justin Long I find it interesting you being in Barbarian as a predator,” she wrote in a follow-up tweet, referencing the hit horror film Long starred in last year. “It must have been weird playing some of your friends. You knew your roommate was assaulting a minor under your own roof. You let it happen. Eek. I hope you regret it now.” A spokesperson for Hill did not provide Jezebel with a comment or response before publication time. Nikolas has previously spoken about unsafe work experiences on the set of Zoey 101, which was created by Dan Schneider, who has been accused of mistreatment and other troubling behavior by former Nickelodeon child stars he’s worked with. These new allegation against Hill come after Brady over the weekend shared a series of screenshots of texts that show him exerting alarming control over her life, including how she could dress, what photos she could share on social media, and even who she could interact with. Brady characterized his behavior as emotional abuse. The allegations from both Brady and now Nikolas are in fairly stark contrast with the public image Hill has fostered: that of an evolved man who takes mental health issues seriously. Hill even created a Netflix documentary about his experiences in therapy that starred his therapist, which, in light of new accusations against the actor, has sparked a wave of online conversation about how “therapy speak” can be misused to mask harmful behaviors. jezebel.com/jonah-hill-preying-alexa-nikolas-tweets-texts-1850627682
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Post by chalet on Jul 11, 2023 21:27:40 GMT
what i don't get is the number of people i hear about who are not married/in long-term relationships who do couples therapy. is this a thing? WHY? the early stages of dating are supposed to be carefree and fun. you don't share property or have kids so should have fewer issues? or is my thinking dated? I don’t know anyone who’s done it but I think it might be a thing among a certain subset of very privileged younger millennials and gen z-ers who grew up with helicopter parents and mucho therapists. I don't get them going to couples therapy either. Why would you be that desperate to make such a short term relationship work? No kids together, not married... cut your losses while they are minimal and move on. Find someone you don't have to work so hard to be with in the first freaking year. Certainly not a Gen Z privileged thing - When I was a pre-teen my friends parents divorced, he was in an affair. Through mutual family friends she found out the affair couple went right into therapy - and of course being nosy kids everyone found out. I mean, imagine you go through a separation and divorce even if you want out of the marriage and then you're in a couples therapy office as the ink is drying? Must be a weird feeling. Well, the good news for me is that I can stop blaming myself for being shallow for disliking him because of his looks. Instead I'm a highly insightful woman who's sees beneath the image presented to the world. I'm completely shallow on GR and thank heavens I can be. That tub of goo as Novice just said, was out of his league. Who better to control a beautiful girl but an older, insecure dude with fame and money? As for airing laundry, well, a 25 year old grew up with never knowing what privacy is and it surely doesn't matter to some of them. Throw it all out there, people forget quickly even with the internet. She might one day not feel so good about battling online and it's there forever.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Jul 12, 2023 11:57:57 GMT
there was no 'good' time to do this. if she'd done it while she was pregnant, people would have bitched about that. wait until after, people bitch about that and why did she wait so long? wait even longer and people would bitch that she'd waited way too long. or maybe people are just unsympathetic to women who suffer abuse and it makes them uncomfortable or something so they'd rather blame the victim than be confronted with yet more evidence of how prevalent this shit is. My point was more about method than anything else. Pick up the phone, send a text, email, reach out to those mutual friends she mentioned and get in touch. Creating a public shitstorm was unnecessary. And it's the public shitstorm that makes the timing awful to me, not the info. It really is (most of the time) a beautiful time in a person's life to have and hold your newborn baby. I mean who cares right? This girl had trauma that needed to be addressed so fuck that new mom and one of the most monumental moments in her life. We all know how necessary Twitter is to healing.
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Post by sputnik on Jul 12, 2023 13:46:00 GMT
My point was more about method than anything else. Pick up the phone, send a text, email, reach out to those mutual friends she mentioned and get in touch. Creating a public shitstorm was unnecessary. And it's the public shitstorm that makes the timing awful to me, not the info. It really is (most of the time) a beautiful time in a person's life to have and hold your newborn baby. I mean who cares right? This girl had trauma that needed to be addressed so fuck that new mom and one of the most monumental moments in her life. We all know how necessary Twitter is to healing. I know I’ve criticized people for airing dirt laundry before but I think this type of behaviour deserves calling out because it’s so normalized and women are regularly blamed for it, and blamed for the fallout if they do speak up. I mean, Jonah hill doesn’t even exist in your equation and Brady is somehow now responsible for his baby mama’s feelings and should have protected Jonah Hill’s reputation to avoid hurting her feelings because she just had a baby? Does this also apply to the girl who tweeted that Jonah hill took her outside and jumped on her at a party when she was 16? I’m sorry but I see one common denominator causing hurt to a lot of women and it’s not Brady or alexi nikolas.
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Post by beeyotch on Jul 12, 2023 14:00:39 GMT
Pick up the phone, send a text, email, reach out to those mutual friends she mentioned and get in touch. Creating a public shitstorm was unnecessary. And it's the public shitstorm that makes the timing awful to me, not the info. It really is (most of the time) a beautiful time in a person's life to have and hold your newborn baby. I mean who cares right? This girl had trauma that needed to be addressed so fuck that new mom and one of the most monumental moments in her life. We all know how necessary Twitter is to healing. But manipulation and bad behavior thrives and depends on people not wanting to "make a scene" or "air dirty laundry." Not calling it out allows the abuse to continue. I say if it's the truth and exposes hypocrisy, then let it be out there. It may be embarrassing and painful to deal with, but staying quiet is not doing that woman and her newborn any favors. Imagine this going on for 5-10-15 years. By then the damage is done. Staying quiet only favors the manipulator.
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Post by lindsaywhit on Jul 12, 2023 16:35:02 GMT
Pick up the phone, send a text, email, reach out to those mutual friends she mentioned and get in touch. Creating a public shitstorm was unnecessary. And it's the public shitstorm that makes the timing awful to me, not the info. It really is (most of the time) a beautiful time in a person's life to have and hold your newborn baby. I mean who cares right? This girl had trauma that needed to be addressed so fuck that new mom and one of the most monumental moments in her life. We all know how necessary Twitter is to healing. But manipulation and bad behavior thrives and depends on people not wanting to "make a scene" or "air dirty laundry." Not calling it out allows the abuse to continue.I say if it's the truth and exposes hypocrisy, then let it be out there. It may be embarrassing and painful to deal with, but staying quiet is not doing that woman and her newborn any favors. Imagine this going on for 5-10-15 years. By then the damage is done. Staying quiet only favors the manipulator. This. You know what's creepy too? I get a really strong feeling Jonah Hill's texting is deliberately set up to cover his ass. It's so therapy-speak it's feels AI, if that makes sense.
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Post by loftybike on Jul 12, 2023 16:39:50 GMT
Oh my, I can't grasp the concept here. All this manipulative, misogyst behavior and it's from Jonah Hill, for f..ks sake. IMHO he's absolutely the guy who you just left standing after the first time he even raises his voice at you. I guess he's really a master in manipulation and started out being nice and caring before he slowly turned into THAT. I really feel bad for Sarah, it's all so terrible, but personally I would not have bothered in the first place.
As for his baby mama, I'm more concerned that she has a child with him barely a year after they got together, given his behavior - could it be that he's gone one step further to get a woman attached to him no matter how he behaves?
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Post by kittylady on Jul 12, 2023 19:29:25 GMT
Pick up the phone, send a text, email, reach out to those mutual friends she mentioned and get in touch. Creating a public shitstorm was unnecessary. And it's the public shitstorm that makes the timing awful to me, not the info. It really is (most of the time) a beautiful time in a person's life to have and hold your newborn baby. I mean who cares right? This girl had trauma that needed to be addressed so fuck that new mom and one of the most monumental moments in her life. We all know how necessary Twitter is to healing. But manipulation and bad behavior thrives and depends on people not wanting to "make a scene" or "air dirty laundry." Not calling it out allows the abuse to continue. I say if it's the truth and exposes hypocrisy, then let it be out there. It may be embarrassing and painful to deal with, but staying quiet is not doing that woman and her newborn any favors. Imagine this going on for 5-10-15 years. By then the damage is done. Staying quiet only favors the manipulator. Staying quiet is how we inadvertently create a "Missing Stair".
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Post by holly on Jul 12, 2023 19:34:35 GMT
But manipulation and bad behavior thrives and depends on people not wanting to "make a scene" or "air dirty laundry." Not calling it out allows the abuse to continue. I say if it's the truth and exposes hypocrisy, then let it be out there. It may be embarrassing and painful to deal with, but staying quiet is not doing that woman and her newborn any favors. Imagine this going on for 5-10-15 years. By then the damage is done. Staying quiet only favors the manipulator. Boy, is that the frickin' truth! I wish I could give this post 100 thumbs up.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Jul 13, 2023 0:35:19 GMT
Are you all seriously saying there was no other way for this woman to reach out to the new baby mama except Twitter? No one addresses this.
I couldn't give two shits about Jonah Hill and he sounds like, at a minimum, an exhausting tool to be with but are we really saying that the only remedy his Ex had to reach out to the new girlfriend was this?
I'm not talking about silencing women or using social media to out a predator. I'm responding to Brady's assertion that she did it for the new girlfriend. I mean come on. She had other ways that didn't involve humiliating and stressing out the person she alleges she wanted to help.
I seriously think we are so warped by this culture of social media and "what about meeeeeee" that we have lost all perspective.
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Post by sputnik on Jul 13, 2023 0:56:22 GMT
lol wut? this isn't about the baby mama, or about brady doing this to reach out to the baby mama. she never said she did this for the baby mama, just that she waited until after she'd given birth (and probably only because of the amount of harassment she's been subjected to because people don't seem to like getting mad at abusive men and would rather blame women).
you're the one making this a story about brady vs. hill's baby mama. no offence but talk about a hot take. if you're so worried about the baby mama, you should worry about the shit hill must be subjecting her to, not the timing of brady's tweets.
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Post by beeyotch on Jul 13, 2023 1:03:44 GMT
What other ways? Privately calling the new baby mama? For one, how well do you think that would be received, would she be believed?
He is a public person, putting himself out there as a caring, thoughtful, enlightened-through-therapy man. This is the best way to put her experience forward, whether it was for her own cathartic need or not. This guy is painting himself as some sort of benign dude when his actions and texts have proved sharply otherwise. So yes, I think that needs to be exposed.
What part of "If you keep quiet about a wolf in sheep's clothing, no one will see the wolf coming" do you not get?
*edit: Also, to be clear, I do not think this girl is publicizing this because she needs attention in any which way, like on a tik-tok-level, the way you seem to be implying. That is Kim Kardashian shit. This is not that.
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Post by sassiness on Jul 13, 2023 11:24:16 GMT
They dated for a year and she is still "recovering from the abuse?" What? If I start dating someone and he says I like this or that or won't tolerate this or that then it's on me to either be ok with it or "next." Those texts could be the early stages of control or they could be a guy who had anxiety and trust issues and this is his way of trying to cope with that. Not saying it's the right way or even remotely effective but "abuse" that requires years of recovery? IDK flame away but if everyone is a victim, no one is. Yeah I agree with this. Then you’re both wrong. Look up coercive control. These kind of messages are the tip of the iceberg of abuse. Bruises fade. The messing with your mind takes years, if not decades to heal.
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