Britney Spears signs $15 million tell-all book deal

[coolios5o]

Thank you for your kind replies. It was a long post but I just wanted to highlight that dealing with a family member who is this mentally ill is one the worst things in the world and for some, it is never ending till the day that person dies. It could be that her family is a bunch of abusers and completely dysfunctional but it could also be that they are somewhat dysfunctional but are trying to do their best in a very difficult and hurtful situation. The only thing we really know for a "fact" is that she is very ill. The way she sees things might be very far from the truth. Like her being forced to work, it could be that she was. It could be that they used her for money. Or it could be that they though it would give her life structure and balance, and help her get back to a functional adult. It's not like she can do a regular job and it is good for the mind to have balance and do something if this goes on for years and years. It could also be that it was her idea at times and then she would flip flop back and forth with it. An example: My father spent 15 years flip flopping on selling his house. In cycles lasting from 6-12 months at a time he would be depressed, complained about the house ad nauseam and tried to sell it, saying he can't afford it. Then when he was manic/psychotic he pulled it off the market, started doing renovations spending absurd amounts of money on it and thought it was the greatest thing ever on earth. This cycle would go on and on for years, until the value of the house had halved, was finally sold and he stuck with the decision. He also had, and still has, Samtards like Britney, who supposedly love him but use him for his fleeting money, enable and downplay his illness. We have fought with his partners multiple times to get him to the hospital because they have deemed him fine right up until he has been in full blown psychotic episodes and been a complete danger to himself and others.

I agree that the interview for the children was a mistake. The britney fantards are absolutely horrible and it has shocked me how many seem to be so completely out of touch. There are also those celebrity friends who send her hearts and give her reinforcement for her behaviour. But I bet her family has tried literally everything else to get through to her and now that the conservatorship has ended, it'll be that much harder to get it back and get her the help she so obviously needs. Maybe her family are at the end of their rope and thought that this was their last shot and it was worth the risk if there was even a minimal chance that they'd get through to her. I'm sure Kfed realized that he would be attacked, maybe they just didn't think people would be so awful towards her children who are completely innocent. All of this family has been very respectful in their words with her and judging by her posts, I'm quite sure she has been absolutely awful to them and what we have seen is only the tip of the iceberg.

[lindsaywhit]

You've truly outlined the difficult and thankless path people with mentally ill loved ones trod. I'm so sorry for you, your dad, and your whole family. Thanks again for your insight.

If they got to the point where she obviously needed a conservatorship again, I wonder if the new husband would be in charge. Hopefully, the courts would make her guardian someone who did not profit from Britney other than a salary.

Sadly, it seems inevitable that she will need some sort of structure in the future if she lives through this period. I truly wish her the best.

[cornflakegrl]

Thanks for posting Coolios. So sorry you've had to deal with this.

I've always had a more sympathetic view of Britney's dad. I've read enough about him to think he's probably an asshole in his own right, controlling, temper issues when challenged, etc, but he saved her life in my view and then did a thankless, exhausting, nightmare of a job for the next 15 years. Only to get cast as some evil overlord who wouldn't let Britney paint cabinets (you all fucking know she wanted to paint them with crayons, nail polish and gitter!) and somehow controlled an entire system including lawyers, judges, independent financial advisors, etc just because he could.

IDK what the status is but all that noise about his theft... show me the receipts. Where are the damn charges then?

I too wish the boys weren't engaged in public but yeah that boy didn't say anything out of line. I imagine for the boys dad and even grandpa were stable, constant love in their lives and to see their whackadoo mom go all scorched earth on them while shaking her ass on IG probably infuriates them. Most normal people really hate to be lied about and would feel the urge to defend themselves, smart or not.

[eatsleepbeer]

Sept 4, 2022 13:56:58 GMT cornflakegrl said:

Thanks for posting Coolios. So sorry you've had to deal with this.

I've always had a more sympathetic view of Britney's dad. I've read enough about him to think he's probably an asshole in his own right, controlling, temper issues when challenged, etc, but he saved her life in my view and then did a thankless, exhausting, nightmare of a job for the next 15 years. Only to get cast as some evil overlord who wouldn't let Britney paint cabinets (you all fucking know she wanted to paint them with crayons, nail polish and gitter!) and somehow controlled an entire system including lawyers, judges, independent financial advisors, etc just because he could.

IDK what the status is but all that noise about his theft... show me the receipts. Where are the damn charges then?

I too wish the boys weren't engaged in public but yeah that boy didn't say anything out of line. I imagine for the boys dad and even grandpa were stable, constant love in their lives and to see their whackadoo mom go all scorched earth on them while shaking her ass on IG probably infuriates them. Most normal people really hate to be lied about and would feel the urge to defend themselves, smart or not.

I've always felt similarly about her dad.


And Coolios, thank you for sharing that. It was both insightful and heartbreaking. Hugs to you,

[no1novice]

KFed said in August that they get abuse & threats from the #freebritney psychos; that it might get worse with this interview but that it was "time" (paraphrasing) as they had never said anything but the shit from Britney was just exhausting + out of control.


Maybe it was a last chance to shake her out of her (manic?) phase & get her to listen but the kids bot visiting and then not going to the wedding didn't work, so....

[mrsfawlty]

coolios5o
Hi coolios, thank you so much for sharing your own experiences with us. It was a painful, important and completely heart-breaking read. You touch upon feelings and thoughts that have affected most, if not all, of us on GRToo. This wonderful site is a place of safety and support. We are all here for you.
It's not easy having a family member, or friend, with mental health issues who lack/s the insight to reach out- which you already know from your experience at home and at work. Psychosis is an unrelenting bitch of a thing and the sufferer has no idea of how awful life is for those who actually care and worry constantly about what the next day will bring! 
You deserve the best for yourself, you have done everything humanly possible and then some more!
Take care of yourself, put yourself and your own loving circle first and may you have peace and serenity- you've earned them.
xx and hugs xx

[trixie]

“Honestly to this day, I don’t know really what I did,” she says. “But the punishment of my father, I wasn’t able to see anyone or say anything…none of it made sense to me,” Spears says, referencing her father, Jamie Spears, who was her conservator for the majority of the 13-year court-ordered arrangement. (Spears’ father was suspended from her conservatorship in Sept. 2021, and roughly one month later, the conservatorship was ultimately terminated.)

Spears explains that the beginning of the conservatorship was very confusing to her, but claims that both her mother and father were involved in the creation of the conservatorship, and believes it was all “pre-meditated.” She alleges that “a woman introduced the idea to my dad, and my mom actually helped him follow through and made it all happen.” Recalling the night it all started, she says that all of a sudden “there were over 200 paparazzi outside my house videotaping me through a window of an ambulance holding me down on a gurney.”

“It was all basically set up. There were no drugs in my system. No alcohol. No nothing. It was pure abuse,” Spears says. “And I haven’t even really shared even half of it.”

Spears says she clearly remembers “my dad’s control.” She says, “He loved to control everything I did.”

Talk about selective memory...
from Jan 4, 2008

A US judge has awarded sole custody of Britney Spears' two children to ex-husband Kevin Federline and suspended the singer's visitation rights.

The court in Los Angeles issued the ruling after Spears was arrested and stretchered away from her home by ambulance earlier today after refusing to hand her children over to Federline.

A four-hour standoff at the troubled singer's Beverly Hills mansion began at 7pm on Thursday (0300 GMT) when she refused to hand her sons, two-year-old Sean Preston and one-year-old Jayden James, over to the children's father.

Police officers arrived at Spears' home at around 8pm. She finally turned over the children at around 10.50pm, according to the Los Angeles police department.

Spears was taken to the Cedars-Sinai medical centre, where she has been visited by her father, Jamie, according to US entertainment websites.

Us magazine and the celebrity gossip website TMZ also claimed her younger son was taken to hospital at the same time in another ambulance.

The magazine reported that Spears had been designated as a "special needs" patient - a term given to those who "have either overdosed or tried to commit suicide".

TMZ said she was being held on a "5150 hold", meaning she is considered a risk to herself or others.

The hospital has refused to comment, citing patient confidentiality laws.

Six police cars, a police helicopter and a fire truck were called to the incident at the singer's home.

Aerial footage from KTLA-TV showed Spears being lifted into an ambulance on a stretcher. She was taken to hospital to be tested for both drink and drugs.

The LAPD officer Jason Lee told the City News Service that Spears was under the influence of an unknown substance. He added that no one was injured.

The incident involved a family dispute that police worked to resolve "peacefully by court order", he said.

TMZ reported that Federline's lawyer was going to court to ask the superior court commissioner to strip Spears of her visitation rights.

Spears and Federline, who were married in October 2004 and divorced in July 2006, were fighting over custody of their sons. Federline, 29, had previously been awarded temporary custody because Spears - who has limited visitation rights - has defied court orders.

The incident that led to police being called began when Spears refused to obey the court order and would not let the court-appointed monitor into her home.

She also refused to allow Federline's two bodyguards into the house when they arrived to take the children just before 8pm.

Her soon to be former lawyer, Sorrell Trope, told Us magazine: "In a normal case when someone shows up with a certified court order saying kids need to be somewhere else, the police see to it that the order is obeyed. But that is in a normal case."

Earlier yesterday, Spears arrived 90 minutes late for a deposition in her custody case at Federline's lawyer's office. She stayed for only a few minutes.

Today's incident is the latest in a string of scandals to hit the troubled pop star.

Spears reportedly checked into rehab in February last year, checking out again within 24 hours.

The following night, she went to a Los Angeles hair salon and shaved her hair off with clippers, prompting psychologists to declare her "disturbed".

In October, Spears was ordered to relinquish custody of her sons because the superior court commissioner said she was a "habitual, frequent and continuous use of controlled substances and alcohol".

She was allowed to see her children only if a monitor was present, and the visits could be cut short if the monitor decided Spears' behaviour endangered the them.

The singer was also ordered to undergo random drug and alcohol testing twice a week.

A few days later, she was officially charged with misdemeanour hit-and-run and driving without a licence, which was later dismissed.

After taking her case to the high court, the star won modified visitation rules that allow her two boys to spend one night a week with her.

Spears still faces a misdemeanour charge of allegedly driving without a valid licence.

www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jan/04/usa.musicnews

Re Jamie, I saw something that Britney's lawyer is suing, alleging he made over 6 million from Britney. Umm...that's over the course of 13 years which is approx $461k/yr. He was paid a salary and some percentages from her shows etc. I know that's a good chunk of change but sorry, I really don't think it's excessive or ripping her off. Especially considering she allegedly has a value of $60-$70 mil. He deserved to make some money considering he gave up his whole LIFE to take care of her.

[lindsaywhit]

^^^ Thanks for that Trixie, it's a good reminder of how desperate her situation really was.

eta: I remember thinking she wasn't going to be alive much longer.

[trixie]

^ I know, right? I didn't even remember half of it. But her now saying she doesn't know what she did, it was premeditated, abuse, a way to control her. Um, she barricaded herself in the house with 2 babies but it was the paparazzi's fault. Also interesting how she seemed to think the rules didn't apply to her, defying court orders, showing up late for deposition, hit and run accident with no license.

Sorry, but seeing her dismiss everything that happened--she has not changed one bit, all these years (and I imagine therapy) and she still refuses to take ANY responsibility. She is the one and only victim here. She is not better and she never will be better. And with her husband egging her on, none of her behavior will stop.

[mel]

I saw where Britney posted more directed at her kids:…

“It’s kinda scary … he stopped seeing me … I posted something of him, but he got really mad so unfortunately, I haven’t been able to post my loving family… either way I’m so sorry children I continue to do social media … I’m sorry you feel I do it for attention … I’m sorry for the way you feel … but guess what ? I’ve got news for you … I’m a child of God as well we all are in God’s eyes … so NOPE I’m not sorry … I’ve learned to say SO !!!”

I think this pretty much sums up Britney: She takes no personal responsibility for anything, does not consider anyone else's feelings and would frankly be exhausting to deal with. I understand why her kids stopped seeing her, and if she ever wants to see them again, this is not the route to take. I'm sure medicated Britney was challenging but unmedicated "Child of God" Britney who has her new husband and FreeBritney crowd egging her on is unbearable. My Grandma was mentally ill and lived in her own reality, and Britney reminds me of her. Frankly, if Jamie made 6 million dollars from the conservatorship, I think it was money well earned.

[cornflakegrl]

Yeah this is who she is and will be forevermore.

Of course she doesn't take accountability for her actions. She really isn't "just" a woman who is emotionally stunted due to early fame or shitty parents. One can recover from that.


She's a mentally ill woman who is emotionally stunted by early fame who then abused drugs and alcohol to the point where she was diagnosed with dementia (per the doco about her which was very PRO free Britney but did note the DX on some medical records they got a hold of).

She isn't going to change or grow. At best, she can be managed. Which is what was happening to her until she balked and everyone walked away.

And here we are...

[sputnik]

She’s also a woman who for the past 13 years was kept in a cage where she had no say over her money, health, relationships, career, children, etc. A good conservatorship would have been made up of people and professionals looking out for her well-being and working towards helping her recover, unlearn unhealthy coping mechanisms, learn the skills and tools necessary to become the responsible adult capable of taking accountability for her actions that everyone here seems to expect her to magically be. Instead she was kept prisoner, drugged and medicated by force with the aim of keeping her sedated and compliant as opposed to actually helping her thrive and mature. There were recorders in her bedroom, her phone was controlled. It sounds like everything about the conservatorship was aimed at keeping her emotionally stunted but compliant rather than addressing and working on the root causes of her issues and helping her regain her autonomy.
I’m not surprised she came out of it possibly worse than she went in, but that’s not on her even if she did abuse drugs and alcohol before the conservatorship was put in place. That was 13 years ago and for the past 13 years, the accountability is on her family and the people who were paid millions to allegedly look out for her best interests…

I was all for the conservatorship until details about the specifics came out, the lack of oversight, and about the abusive, exploitative, toxic shit her family did, and continues to do.

[chaz]

I wonder if she actually has early onset dementia? Sounds a bit strange drug and alcohol would bring on dementia at that age. Either way very sad for her if she does have it.

[notoriousmkg]

Sept 5, 2022 20:01:36 GMT sputnik said:

She’s also a woman who for the past 13 years was kept in a cage where she had no say over her money, health, relationships, career, children, etc. A good conservatorship would have been made up of people and professionals looking out for her well-being and working towards helping her recover, unlearn unhealthy coping mechanisms, learn the skills and tools necessary to become the responsible adult capable of taking accountability for her actions that everyone here seems to expect her to magically be. Instead she was kept prisoner, drugged and medicated by force with the aim of keeping her sedated and compliant as opposed to actually helping her thrive and mature. There were recorders in her bedroom, her phone was controlled. It sounds like everything about the conservatorship was aimed at keeping her emotionally stunted but compliant rather than addressing and working on the root causes of her issues and helping her regain her autonomy.
I’m not surprised she came out of it possibly worse than she went in, but that’s not on her even if she did abuse drugs and alcohol before the conservatorship was put in place. That was 13 years ago and for the past 13 years, the accountability is on her family and the people who were paid millions to allegedly look out for her best interests…

I have no idea how the conservatorship was actually run.  We have heard claims by Britney and others.  It sounds like the lawsuit her lawyer has apparently launched against her father is still in the very early stages.  But as it advances, we will probably know the actual details of what was done to her, how much money was earned during this period, and where it went. 

I do think it would have been very possible to come back from her problems during this extended period with proper treatment.  David Bowie was in such bad shape he didn't even remember the 1970's.  He bounced back amazingly well.  I wonder what his secret was....

[no1novice]

Sept 5, 2022 21:39:25 GMT notoriousmkg said:

Sept 5, 2022 20:01:36 GMT sputnik said:

She’s also a woman who for the past 13 years was kept in a cage where she had no say over her money, health, relationships, career, children, etc. A good conservatorship would have been made up of people and professionals looking out for her well-being and working towards helping her recover, unlearn unhealthy coping mechanisms, learn the skills and tools necessary to become the responsible adult capable of taking accountability for her actions that everyone here seems to expect her to magically be. Instead she was kept prisoner, drugged and medicated by force with the aim of keeping her sedated and compliant as opposed to actually helping her thrive and mature. There were recorders in her bedroom, her phone was controlled. It sounds like everything about the conservatorship was aimed at keeping her emotionally stunted but compliant rather than addressing and working on the root causes of her issues and helping her regain her autonomy.
I’m not surprised she came out of it possibly worse than she went in, but that’s not on her even if she did abuse drugs and alcohol before the conservatorship was put in place. That was 13 years ago and for the past 13 years, the accountability is on her family and the people who were paid millions to allegedly look out for her best interests…

I have no idea how the conservatorship was actually run.  We have heard claims by Britney and others.  It sounds like the lawsuit her lawyer has apparently launched against her father is still in the very early stages.  But as it advances, we will probably know the actual details of what was done to her, how much money was earned during this period, and where it went. 

I do think it would have been very possible to come back from her problems during this extended period with proper treatment.  David Bowie was in such bad shape he didn't even remember the 1970's.  He bounced back amazingly well.  I wonder what his secret was....

Accepting treatment and not having sever underlying mental illness?


Speaking of accepting treatment.....

Britney Spears tells son she needs ‘unconditional love’ after his ‘hateful’ interview

Britney Spears responded to comments made by 15-year-old son Jayden James in an interview that recently aired on “60 Minutes Australia.”

“Jayden, as you undermine my behavior just like my whole family always has with, ‘Hope she gets better, I will pray for her’ … Pray for what?” the superstar, 40, said in a voice memo shared via Instagram on Monday.

“I keep working so I can pay off [my mother Lynne Spears’] legal fees and her house,” continued Britney, who then suggested that Jayden’s “hateful” remarks were rooted in fear of her financial obligations ending soon.

Jayden turns 16 on Sept. 12, while his older brother, Sean Preston, turns 17 on Sept. 14. Britney shares both teen boys with ex-husband Kevin Federline, who also participated in the “60 Minutes Australia” interview.


“Do you guys want me to get better so I can continue to give your dad $40,000 a month?” the “Toxic” singer said, acknowledging her current contributions. “Or is the reasoning behind you guys deciding to be hateful is because it’s actually over in two years and you don’t get anything?”

Jayden told celebrity interviewer Daphne Barak that he and Preston — who skipped her June nuptials to husband Sam Asghari — no longer spend time with their mom, but hope to reunite with her in the future when she “[gets] better mentally.”

Britney told Jayden via Instagram that she needs “unconditional love and support” from her family, not disparaging comments about her mental state.


“It saddens me not one of you have valued me as a person,” she said. “You’ve witnessed how my family has been to me and that’s all you know. Like I said, I feel you all secretly like to say something’s wrong with me.”

The Grammy winner also detailed her memory of a conversation she had with Jayden before he and Preston decided to stop seeing their mother.

“I will say it. I sat in that kitchen and looked you straight in the eyes, beautiful boy, and said, ‘How come I can’t see you guys anymore? Or just see you guys more? I look forward to seeing you guys weekly,’” she recounted. “You said, ‘Mama, oh, it’ll change.’”


Britney elaborated, “You and your brother left me in that house always two hours early. Preston would sleep. You would play the piano the whole time. And if I didn’t shower you guys with gifts and have amazing food ready and play a motherf—king saint, it was still never good enough.”

The pop icon seemed to place blame on her estranged father, Jamie Spears, for her current dynamic with Jayden and Sean. Jamie, 70, implemented the nearly 14-year conservatorship that controlled his famous daughter’s life before its November 2021 termination.

“Honestly, my dad needs to be in jail for the rest of his life,” Britney said, a sentiment she has shared before.


Jayden defended Jamie in the “60 Minutes Australia” interview, insisting he had Britney’s best interests in mind when establishing the restrictive legal arrangement.

It should be noted that Jamie was slapped with a three-year domestic violence restraining order in 2019 after an alleged incident with Preston, preventing him from having contact with his grandsons. Additionally, when Jayden spoke out in a March 2020 Instagram Live session, he called his grandfather “a pretty big d—k” who “can go die.”

Britney concluded her Monday message by saying her family’s inaction to end her conservatorship — and the four-month stay at a mental health facility against her will — has halted her belief in a higher power.


“God would not allow that to happen to me if a God existed,” she stated. “I don’t believe in God anymore because of the way my children and my family have treated me. There is nothing to be believe in anymore. I’m an atheist, y’all.”.