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Post by notoriousmkg on May 19, 2023 16:44:45 GMT
This gets sadder and sadder every time we get a glimpse. Predictable but sad. Kids wanting to move away from their mom. I get their POV, but as a mom that would gut me. it is sad. but my sense is that this isn't recent and her relationship with her kids has been broken for a long time. i think with the conservatorship she pretty much stopped being involved with the kids' day to day and only saw them occasionally. i doubt she ever did much parenting beyond having them on weekends and holidays and even then probably always supervised or with minders around, etc. i doubt she ever had anything to do with school or parent-teacher meetings or extra-curriculars or any of the normal family stuff. ^^^ this kind of tangentially reminds me of an aunt of mine who passed away a few years ago. She had written up kind of a book of her life and asked me to edit it. She had had a pretty crazy existence, moving around all over the place with her huge brood of kids. In the book, you would think she was the most hyper-involved, advocate mom ever. But the truth was that she spent a lot of time during her kids' childhood working as a cocktail waitress at night and then sleeping during the day. Which led to some unfortunate stuff happening with her unsupervised kids (they are all doing well now, though). Anyway, I remember mentioning to my cousin that her mom had given me this book thing to edit and my cousin replied, "Probably all a bunch of f*ckin' lies!" LOLOLOLOLOL. I almost died.... |
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Post by trixie on May 19, 2023 18:26:02 GMT
Hmmm well I have no legal expertise in th is, but the divorce/child custody took place in CA, I don't see how that would change jurisdiction. And Brit's attorney would not be dumb enough to fall for that. They can't just up and move without Brit's permission, not while she's still paying anyway. Things have changed since Jamie and the conservatorship are out of the picture. Lots more hard feelings now.
Also, I just have to say I can't believe CS just automatically gets cut off at 18. What kid these days is prepared to get out in the world and support themselves at that age?
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Post by dilligaf on May 19, 2023 20:06:50 GMT
I hope she has to pay for them through college, for fuck's sake it is the very least the woman can do.
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Post by greysfang on May 20, 2023 6:06:24 GMT
Hmmm well I have no legal expertise in th is, but the divorce/child custody took place in CA, I don't see how that would change jurisdiction. And Brit's attorney would not be dumb enough to fall for that. They can't just up and move without Brit's permission, not while she's still paying anyway. Things have changed since Jamie and the conservatorship are out of the picture. Lots more hard feelings now. Also, I just have to say I can't believe CS just automatically gets cut off at 18. What kid these days is prepared to get out in the world and support themselves at that age? If the children become legal residents of another state the new state has jurisdiction as long as the child is under 18. |
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Post by MsDark on May 20, 2023 15:51:41 GMT
I think the very least she should do is continue to contribute to their support through college, regardless of where they live and what the legal cut off age is for child support.
As for Kevin, he gave up his career to be with her and then to raise their kids. We've been over this plenty though.
I used to think this guy was a bum, greedy gold digger, etc like everyone else did at the start. But this hasn't been my opinion for a long time. If anything, he could have been getting way more.
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Post by loftybike on May 20, 2023 17:10:59 GMT
^^^I feel the same. He didn't write a book or shop their marriage around in any other form. Granted, he lives off her money, but being there for them when their mother couldn't really care for them turned out to be a very good thing for both of their boys. So I'm not resenting him.
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Post by trixie on May 20, 2023 20:28:58 GMT
Oh, I agree she SHOULD support them past 18, but I'm not sure she will. She's estranged from the kids, is pissed off about the tv interview they did, and has said some pretty shitty things on SM, as has Sam, who implies Kevin is some lazy bum living off Brit. (We'll see what happens when it's his turn to divorce her lol) Nevermind that the lazy bum raised her kids while she was off twirling in the foyer.
Still don't understand how a kid gets cut off from child support at 18, but can stay on their parents health insurance until 26.
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Post by sputnik on May 20, 2023 21:30:10 GMT
i agree the 18 cutoff makes no sense. kids are in no way ready to be independent at that age.
i agree kfed stepped up and defied expectations by being a good dad for those kids. but i don't think he's a saint either he basically was complicit and let britney's dad keep her in a conservatorship that was doing her more harm than good and probably made her mental issues worse, and today's britney is the result. it kept the checks coming, and it also have him all the control over the kids. like i've said a million times, it's clear britney needed some kind of oversight/conservatorship but that needed to be in the hands of neutral parties, not her parents, and needed to be overseen/monitored to make sure it was actually serving britney. and that's clearly not what happened.
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Post by kittylady on May 20, 2023 21:46:32 GMT
i agree the 18 cutoff makes no sense. kids are in no way ready to be independent at that age. i agree kfed stepped up and defied expectations by being a good dad for those kids. but i don't think he's a saint either he basically was complicit and let britney's dad keep her in a conservatorship that was doing her more harm than good and probably made her mental issues worse, and today's britney is the result. it kept the checks coming, and it also have him all the control over the kids. like i've said a million times, it's clear britney needed some kind of oversight/conservatorship but that needed to be in the hands of neutral parties, not her parents, and needed to be overseen/monitored to make sure it was actually serving britney. and that's clearly not what happened. They also shouldn't have gone from 0 to 100 in releasing her from the conservatorship. It should have been carefully managed, regularly assessed and paused at any point where she was showing signs that she was at risk to herself or others. As it was it was as if they'd taken in a wild animal that was captive raised and then turned it loose into the wild without doing the necessary rehab and reintroduction to give it the best chance of survival. The entire thing has been badly mishandled from start to finish. |
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Post by lindsaywhit on May 21, 2023 13:38:48 GMT
Oh, I agree she SHOULD support them past 18, but I'm not sure she will. She's estranged from the kids, is pissed off about the tv interview they did, and has said some pretty shitty things on SM, as has Sam, who implies Kevin is some lazy bum living off Brit. (We'll see what happens when it's his turn to divorce her lol) Nevermind that the lazy bum raised her kids while she was off twirling in the foyer.
Still don't understand how a kid gets cut off from child support at 18, but can stay on their parents health insurance until 26. I cackled at that... until I remembered these:  She's just not 'right' and it seems there is no one who can help her. |
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Post by louiswinthorpe111 on May 22, 2023 20:43:00 GMT
^^You can't help someone who doesn't want it.
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Post by trixie on May 23, 2023 0:03:40 GMT
i agree the 18 cutoff makes no sense. kids are in no way ready to be independent at that age. i agree kfed stepped up and defied expectations by being a good dad for those kids. but i don't think he's a saint either he basically was complicit and let britney's dad keep her in a conservatorship that was doing her more harm than good and probably made her mental issues worse, and today's britney is the result. it kept the checks coming, and it also have him all the control over the kids. like i've said a million times, it's clear britney needed some kind of oversight/conservatorship but that needed to be in the hands of neutral parties, not her parents, and needed to be overseen/monitored to make sure it was actually serving britney. and that's clearly not what happened. They also shouldn't have gone from 0 to 100 in releasing her from the conservatorship. It should have been carefully managed, regularly assessed and paused at any point where she was showing signs that she was at risk to herself or others. As it was it was as if they'd taken in a wild animal that was captive raised and then turned it loose into the wild without doing the necessary rehab and reintroduction to give it the best chance of survival. The entire thing has been badly mishandled from start to finish. It doesn't seem like it works that way though. All these years I thought she had doctors monitoring her condition which kept her in the conservatorship, and it turns out they released her from it without even a medical evaluation! The way it ended was just so damn weird, was it just that she never knew she could file to end it, finally got an attorney who knew better, or Jamie was totally exhausted and fed up taking care of a 40 year old girl child. It's like it was all a sham. |
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Post by beeyotch on May 23, 2023 0:28:30 GMT
I think it just sheds light on how poorly mental health cases are handled in general, how much of a no-win situation they often are.
And in her case it seemed like the publicity and backlash just made everyone not want to be left holding the bag. No doctor, no judge, no management agent, no lawyer could fight the huge wave of public sentiment. It's difficult to legally force on an adult to do anything. It would be difficult even for private citizens, but someone with such intense global attention means anyone associated would be under unfair scrutiny from the public who have no clue what is really going on. Who wants to sign up for that time bomb
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Post by sputnik on May 23, 2023 1:15:56 GMT
^^^
this. and it's such a contradiction because on the one hand, like trixie pointed out it ended without a medical evaluation or a transition period, but while she was under the conservatorship, not only was there no neutral party providing oversight over anything, the conservators basically dictated everything including her medications and she had no autonomy over her life at all, not with regard to her mental of physical health, not with regard to her relationship with her kids, her career, her phone or internet access. they controlled literally everything and there was no one to oversee the medical aspects and make sure she was actually making progress as opposed to being kept way too medicated, and compliant, and forced to perform against her will to keep the cash flowing.
as far as i'm concerned, yes, sure she's infuriating and immature and whatever, and she should be under some supervision, but it's equally true that the conservatorship under jamie was absolutely criminal and abusive and did way more damage than anything else.
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Post by Sarzy on Jun 9, 2023 7:06:32 GMT
Britney posted this before deleting her Instagram account again. I feel like she's trying to hint at something else here. But I am probably reading way too much into it.  |
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