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Post by kittylady on Jan 17, 2023 1:42:17 GMT
I saw that too. I stared at my phone, blinked a few times and thought "yep, that's enough reddit for today" and closed it and did not return for a full day. The scary part is that they're serious. They really are. Part of it may be genuine concern for Britney, but I think they're also chasing the high they got from the 'success' of the "Free Britney" campaign. That's heady stuff, and hard to let go of I would imagine. It's rather like the Flat Earthers/Q-Anon/general conspiracy nuts. They are desperately clutching on to anything that makes them feel like they are somehow better, more aware and more intelligent than everyone else, that they are among a select "Chosen Few" who can see the "truth" and being able to access (and feed) each other via the internet turns it into a massive circlejerk that just keeps growing and growing as they draw more people into their shared madness. I feel sorry for Britney. Too many people are too invested in what she does next and judge her every move through the lens of her mental health issues. Not only that but too many people seem to want to be on the spot if/when she has another break down, to the point where there's bound to be more than a few who will happily provoke and contribute to it happening so they can sell the rights to the video while claiming to be a big fan and heartbroken that it has happened. She should have been allowed to fade away from the spotlight instead of being forced onto a moneymaking treadmill that has now blown up in everyone's faces. |
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Post by trixie on Jan 17, 2023 5:14:01 GMT
Yes. But she can certainly fade away now, she's out from under the conservatorship, she has enough money that she'll never have to work, she has a new husband. She has kids with whom she could start to rebuild a relationship. But she chooses to put herself out there with the crazy instagram stuff, rants, nudies, twirlies. So on the one hand she wants the attention but then if she's photographed in a restaurant or spoken to by a Jack in the Box employee she loses her shit. I see this behavior and can't help but be reminded it's why she was put under the conservatorship to begin with. Should they have been teaching her life skills so she could live on her own? Not sure any of it would have mattered.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Jan 17, 2023 14:43:04 GMT
^^ Yeah I'm not sure I buy that the conservatorship could have or should have helped her more. I think her mental illness is pretty severe and options for treatment that would render her "normal" are probably non-existent.
I've known people with relatives that have severe mental illness. They have exhausted themselves and their resources just trying to keep that person safe. Never mind trying to get them to live some kind of normal, quiet life. It's never going to happen.
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Post by charmedhour on Jan 18, 2023 14:25:38 GMT
I really hope Sam has realized that it would be a terrible idea to have a baby with Britney. That would be a nightmare of epic proportions. She can barely take care of herself. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants her to get pregnant so he can’t do a k-fed and have a money train. I just don’t trust this guy and think he’s using her. I am honestly on the fence about him, even still. I think that, of course, he benefits financially and career wise being her husband. I also think he had ZERO true understanding of what a conservatorship free Britney would entail. I don't think he has/had an indepth understanding of her illness(es) and what on going care she actually needs. Factor that in with Britney, that I also believe is both an asshole outside of her issues, and severely ill with resistance to ongoing care, and it's a perfect shit storm. I feel if he was all in on a baby, for personal gain reasons, she'd be pregnant (again, maybe) already. He'd be encouraging IUI/IVF cause she's 40. |
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Post by lindsaywhit on Jan 18, 2023 16:02:06 GMT
^^^Thanks for putting what I was thinking into words, Charmed.  |
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Post by charmedhour on Jan 18, 2023 20:33:26 GMT
^^^Thanks for putting what I was thinking into words, Charmed. Hahha, you're welcome! I'm spending too much time watching them on IG lately. I also think he's not a straight forward narcisst but a very self-centered man. It could certainly be his age coupled with Hollywood aspirations. Or he's just a douche like many people are: "me, me, me; enough about me let's talk about me!". His public forwardface is support of Britney. Which I think is lovely in a partner so long as behind the scenes you are working for the better good. Kind of like parents working together parenting- one does not override the other with the kids kind of hting. I truly hope that behind the scenes, he is trying his most for/with her. Living with untreated mental illness is hell for the person and those that surround them. |
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Post by trixie on Jan 19, 2023 0:24:55 GMT
Yeah, not sure what to think about Sam. He was seeing her for 4-5 years during the conservatorship, I think. Did he ever talk to Jamie about what her issues were? I think it's safe to say he played a part in getting her to push out of the conservatorship, so she could marry, have a baby and gain control of her finances. Which would also benefit him of course. Seems to me he continues to enable her behavior because who is taking those nudie pictures and videos? Is he in over his head or have more nefarious intentions? Who knows.
There was a pre-nup and I'm sure he would walk away in better shape financially than when he came in. But without kids, I don't see K-Fed money there, since Kevin was only entitled to all these years of payments because he had to take over primary care of their kids.
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Post by beeyotch on Jan 19, 2023 2:43:13 GMT
Death pool candidate. I give her 2 years. Maybe 3. All of it torturous. If she had any sort of real character or moral will beyond developmental age 14-15, or a miracle worker like Helen Keller, she could still turn it around. But no.
I mean, it's just such a shit show now, it would be a mercy at this point.
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Post by lindsaywhit on Jan 19, 2023 7:56:21 GMT
 Back to this awful picture but I have to ask if anyone knows why she always wears her pants at her bikini line? She seems obsessed with keeping it a thread-count away from porn? She also frequently puts her hands in a way that teases the possibility of lowering them. I mean, I understand it's more sexualized kitten behavior, but was she costumed like that for concerts and/or appearances? That and the boob smush she does in her shower pictures (Geez what a weird thing to type) are not dance moves, so why did those poses become her comfort 'sexy' look? I'm not sure Sam is taking these. The camera angle seems really high. |
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Post by HWBL on Jan 19, 2023 8:35:20 GMT
Death pool candidate. I give her 2 years. Maybe 3. All of it torturous. If she had any sort of real character or moral will beyond developmental age 14-15, or a miracle worker like Helen Keller, she could still turn it around. But no. I mean, it's just such a shit show now, it would be a mercy at this point. Agreed. This is not going to end well. Question is: did she turn into this because of the conservatorship, or was the conservatorship necessary because she really needed to be protected from herself/her behavior? |
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Post by MsDark on Jan 19, 2023 12:27:20 GMT
If it weren't for the conservatorship she would not be living today. It probably should have been someone other than her dad (and definitely not the mom) but I still think she would have been stunted and trapped in a time warp.
In a weird way I think the conservatorship preserved/extended the length of her career, such as it became. She will probably never see it as such however.
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Post by sassiness on Jan 19, 2023 12:53:21 GMT
I think it's both?
Her behaviour back in the day and now confirms she has serious mental health and trauma issues, she is unable or unwilling (or both) to engage with treatment and comply with any medication or therapy recommendations, and she appears to have delusional thinking. I don't know if she is psychotic (unable to tell the difference between delusion and reality) or if she's a danger to herself or others. Too hard to tell from afar and in any event, I'm a lawyer who works with a lot of unwell and impaired people not a psychiatrist who can assess that they're impaired.
But the previous restraint and coercive order made everything worse.
She was forcibly medicated and forced to work endlessly. She was treated as a money making wind up doll. I understand and empathise with why Britney does not trust any mental health treatment and why she needs doctors, support workers etc who are able to provide trauma informed care and who respect her agency.
Part of that means respecting her right to make bad decisions so long as those bad choices don't harm others.
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Post by o0amber0o on Jan 19, 2023 13:50:10 GMT
Back to this awful picture but I have to ask if anyone knows why she always wears her pants at her bikini line? She seems obsessed with keeping it a thread-count away from porn? She also frequently puts her hands in a way that teases the possibility of lowering them. I mean, I understand it's more sexualized kitten behavior, but was she costumed like that for concerts and/or appearances? That and the boob smush she does in her shower pictures (Geez what a weird thing to type) are not dance moves, so why did those poses become her comfort 'sexy' look? I'm not sure Sam is taking these. The camera angle seems really high. Absolutely. In her prime low riders and belly shirts were in style (1998-2003ish) - not only is she mentally stuck in that time, her fashion is also. I think she had some pretty controversial photoshoots back then where maybe she was cupping her boobs - which could also explain the boob smush thing LOL She's just eternally in the early 2000's. |
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Post by waterslide on Jan 19, 2023 14:41:05 GMT
As a side note, a bunch of pages back I complained that Britney’s clothes all look cheap and that I could not figure out where she found them. I found a site that breaks it all down and imagine my surprise to discover that many of her shirts come from Anthropologie. Think what you will about Anthropologie, but I would never have guessed that is what she’s wearing and the clothes are unrecognizable in the side-by-sides with the model pics.. I’m not saying this to be bitchy, but she’s not an Anthropologie girl aesthetics-wise at all and it’s amazing how well (this is the bitchy part) she succeeds at cheapening everything she puts on. It’s a skill for real.
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Post by sputnik on Jan 19, 2023 14:45:38 GMT
^^^^^ i'm not that surprised. anthropologie has really gone downhill. the prices are still very high but if you look at the materials, they're mostly cheap synthetics, and not very well made. they still have some nice stuff and in bigger cities some stores tend to have nicer stuff but there's a lot of overpriced kind of slutty hippie chick shit that is basically h&m or zara quality but for twice the price. free people is similar. there's a lot of stuff that's basically shredded crop tops in flimsy materials and they're over 100$...
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