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Post by no1novice on Sept 18, 2022 16:02:17 GMT
And Lithuania has a concentration camp as a wedding & party venue. They also host kids party's where the kids can dress up in uniform.......
(Kaunas' Seventh Fort in Zaliakalnis, Lithuania if you are interested. It's an older fort but 90% or more of Lithuania's Jews were murdered there in the war).
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Post by lindsaywhit on Sept 18, 2022 17:20:30 GMT
i think the slave street name was what it was originally called and these places tend to be preserved with all the original signage, etc. and i agree with you that they probably apologized because of the backlash but i also don't think that's a huge deal? and i don't particularly care for reynolds or lively but lot of things were more or less socially acceptable in 2012 and weren't anymore in 2020 and there's also the expectation that public figures apologize for stuff that people rightly or wrongly get upset about and yeah most of it is performative but i can't blame people for complying. who wants to be the subject of a social media outrage campaign? plantation weddings are pretty common in the US. so were bachelorette parties, corporate retreats, etc. because these places function as historic places, yes, but that also get rented out to pay for their maintenance. they were basically acceptable until not too long ago when people started vocally criticising using them for 'fun' events while disregarding the fact that they were built and operated by slaves, so now i think they've been relegated to something only white republicans would do. the whole gone with the wind/plantation aesthetic was a thing, and people didn't think twice about it and kind of cosplayed it without linking it to slavery. look at the band lady antebellum that had to change their name, or the dixie chicks that are now just the chicks. they were also caught up in this change where any kind glorification of the confederate south or its aesthetic can no longer be separated from the fact that this was all going on at the same time as slavery because at least some people in the US is trying to be more aware of its racism. that's probably a good thing. but i can't really get all that upset about the people that had one during that sort of transition period and a few years later found themselves on the wrong side of history, so to speak. as far as transgressions go, i would say it's fairly minor? They were acceptable to certain people. A lot of people have always protested against using locations where people were enslaved, tortured, murdered, and had their families ripped away from them as an entertainment venue. Many of us have long compared plantation weddings to having a wedding at a former concentration camp, a place of murder and human suffering- it’s in extremely poor taste. People used to just accuse those protesting against it as whining. When the SJWs decided that they didn’t like it either, people started listening, but the argument isn’t a new one. It wasn’t new in 2012 either. ^^^ Totally agree. But in terms of mainstream white american culture, questioning the appropriateness of plantation weddings didn’t begin until fairly recently. I'm pretty ashamed of the horrible shit I've ignored or passed over because it "just didn't occur to me." And not only historically, I mean things that I've had to practically be bashed over the head with before I recognized that my experiences didn't have any connection with the realities that whole groups of people deal with daily. Remember the black man who was running away from the cops - I think they stopped him for some stupid thing like a taillight - and this white cop chased him across this small greenish park and gunned him down? Just ran after him and shot him, in the back, multiple times. Somebody recorded the whole thing, including the cop trying to rearrange the scene to suit his own narrative. Horrible, horrible, carnage that I did not understand until that moment was the fear and oppression a huge number of Americans lived with every damn day. It still makes me sick to think about it, but that doesn't mean anything to the mothers who have to live with this terror every time their child leaves the house. |
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Post by no1novice on Sept 18, 2022 19:41:25 GMT
Blake Lively posts pregnancy pics to undermine paparazzi staking out her house By Kathianne Boniello September 17, 2022 | 7:46pm Don’t mess with the pregnant lady! A fed-up Blake Lively posted numerous shots of her burgeoning belly on Instagram, calling out the paparazzi allegedly staking out her home. “Here are photos of me pregnant in real life so the 11 guys waiting outside my home for a 🦄 sighting will leave me alone,” she wrote alongside a shot in a one-piece red bathing suit. blake-lively 14 Actress Blake Lively posted a series of pregnancy photos on Instagram to get back at the paparazzi who she claimed were waiting outside of her house. Instagram http://instagram.com/p/Cin8-4JpcZw “You freak me and my kids out. Thanks to everyone else for all the love and respect and for continuing to unfollow accounts and publications who share photos of children. You have all the power against them. And thank you to the media who have a ‘No Kids Policy’. You all make all the difference 🙏♥️. Much love! Xxb” Related Video Blake Lively is pregnant, expecting fourth baby with Ryan Reynolds Lively, who is pregnant with her fourth child with husband Ryan Reynolds, posted 10 images of herself, including shots of her and Reynolds and her posing with Taylor Swift. The couple already share daughters James, 7, Inez, 5, and Betty, 2.     |
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Post by czb on Sept 19, 2022 0:01:23 GMT
And Lithuania has a concentration camp as a wedding & party venue. They also host kids party's where the kids can dress up in uniform....... (Kaunas' Seventh Fort in Zaliakalnis, Lithuania if you are interested. It's an older fort but 90% or more of Lithuania's Jews were murdered there in the war).  |
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Post by notoriousmkg on Sept 19, 2022 2:44:08 GMT
Well, now that red states are busily erasing the mentioning of slavery and the civil rights struggle from history books - and instead described as "involuntary relocation" - because it will make white people feel bad, you can bet that even less people will understand what "plantation house" or "antebellum" means.
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Post by caponegirl on Oct 8, 2022 1:09:32 GMT
They seem like a great couple. But I don't like them at all. They are too perfect, tall & beautiful i hate that. When something is that shiny it doesn't seem rosy. I hope that they have a lot of fights. Who gives their kid an elderly lady's name (Betty) were they expecting the baby to be born w/a cane. Child will be in therapy.
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Post by no1novice on Oct 8, 2022 15:29:18 GMT
They seem like a great couple. But I don't like them at all. They are too perfect, tall & beautiful i hate that. When something is that shiny it doesn't seem rosy. I hope that they have a lot of fights. Who gives their kid an elderly lady's name (Betty) were they expecting the baby to be born w/a cane. Child will be in therapy. You know that this kind of projection isn't healthy right? Also, fair enough if you don't like the name Betty but plenty of people do. I see a lot of girls being called Betty this next year due to both Betty White & QEII dying. |
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Post by funky on Oct 10, 2022 11:20:40 GMT
That's not nice Caponegirl. Also, my co-worker is called Betty, she's a beautiful 20 something. I don't think it's an old name necessarily. And if they named her after Betty White (because why not) good for them.
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Post by coppercatseye on Oct 10, 2022 16:00:18 GMT
I think Betty is a sweet name and certainly not one that is going to result in therapy.
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Post by trixie on Oct 10, 2022 18:19:15 GMT
Old school vintage names are making a comeback.
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Post by charmedhour on Oct 10, 2022 18:21:22 GMT
Old school vintage names are making a comeback. Yup we have a Hazel and Sadie names for new babies in our family. |
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Post by mel on Oct 10, 2022 19:30:57 GMT
I think there are a lot of terrible celebrity baby names out there but Betty is not one of the IMO.
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Post by no1novice on Oct 10, 2022 21:27:36 GMT
Old school vintage names are making a comeback. Yup we have a Hazel and Sadie names for new babies in our family. Oh I love both as those as names. |
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Post by greysfang on Oct 11, 2022 21:34:26 GMT
Yeah, save your hatred for Gertrude or Helga.
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Post by MsDark on Oct 11, 2022 23:11:01 GMT
I dunno I kinda like Gertrude and Helga. That's some bad ass viking shit.
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