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Post by kittylady on Sept 11, 2022 19:46:48 GMT
Will and Kate seem to tolerate one another out of necessity. I'm sure there was once love. But obviously not anymore. I know plenty of couples together for twice as long (as those two have been) who are still obviously in love. So I don't think it's time together. But given Bill's cheating, it's not a shock. I've been with Bloke for coming up to 11 years and we're still very much 'into' each other and affectionate. I don't think I'd want to be with someone who I just sort of rubbed along with out of necessity or duty. On a snarky note, I snorted when I saw Sophie standing as a buffer between Louise and Andy the Nonce. |
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Post by Sarzy on Sept 11, 2022 20:04:55 GMT
^ Speaking of Andy the nonce, people on Twitter were talking about this
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Post by kittylady on Sept 11, 2022 20:23:33 GMT
^ Speaking of Andy the nonce, people on Twitter were talking about this Sweet baby Jeebus...  |
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Post by trixie on Sept 11, 2022 20:57:24 GMT
I don't feel sorry for Kate. She knew what she was getting into, and wanted it anyway.
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Post by waterslide on Sept 11, 2022 21:09:43 GMT
Oh my GOD, I didn't figure out at first that was Eugenie Andrew is groping. Not that I wanted him to grope anyone, but his own daughter in public with a zillion cameras around? WTF? Does KCIII have the power to banish him somewhere? Like a royal black hole? edit, here's (imo) a bit of a palette cleanser of the Meghan hug. |
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Post by MsDark on Sept 11, 2022 22:09:01 GMT
I don't feel sorry for Kate. She knew what she was getting into, and wanted it anyway. She and her mother might have conspired to bring about the opportunity for them to meet and potentially end up together, but ultimately Will is the one who noticed her and chose her. They were actual friends in the same peer group. Either he hasn't stopped cheating or she hasn't forgiven him yet. Or the cheating just changed the relationship for good in a way that they have never gotten back to. I'll bet if it was her doing the fucking around Will's ego would not have been able to deal, royal duty or not. Added: Andy being a gross nonce is something we can all agree to though. |
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Post by sputnik on Sept 11, 2022 22:16:00 GMT
ROYALS SEPT. 9, 2022 What Happens to Prince Andrew Now? By Claire Lampen  The late queen and her favorite boy, Prince Andrew Photo: Max Mumby/Indigo/Getty Images The U.K. got its first new monarch in a lifetime yesterday, following the death of Queen Elizabeth II and the passing of the crown to the Charles formerly known as Prince. Somber times for some, exuberant times for the very online, and presumably pretty stressful times for one man — disgraced Prince Andrew. For years, Andrew’s status as mummy’s favourite boy kept him salaried and housed on a Crown Estate. While the queen was still alive, the Duke of York seemed intent on clawing back some kind of public role, but King Charles III’s reign is expected to bring changes both for the monarchy in general and Andrew in particular. “As long as the queen is around, it might be possible for him to keep sneaking back in,” journalist and royal biographer Tina Brown said of Andrew in an April interview, referring to the duke’s then-recent surprise photo opps with his mother, “but it’s not going to work when Charles is king or when William is king. He is going to have absolutely no truck with Andrew.” (Although William did let Andrew ride shotgun on the Range Rover ride to Balmoral as the family rushed to pay final respects.) Just a day since the announcement of the queen’s death, however, it’s not clear exactly what happens to Andrew next. There are exhaustively detailed royal protocols to execute in coming days that probably take priority. Still, we know that the queen held a glowing opinion of the duke that their family members do not share. Points of contention include Andrew’s ties to the late sex offender Jeffrey Epstein — which the prince seemingly didn’t sever even after Epstein’s predation became globally known — and his well-documented friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell, recently convicted for her role in Epstein’s sex-trafficking scheme. Relatedly, there are allegations that the prince had sex with minors whom Epstein trafficked, in particular Virginia Giuffre, who accused the duke of raping her. Both Andrew and Buckingham Palace denied the allegations, but the queen is believed to have paid some $13 million to settle Giuffre’s lawsuit earlier this year. According to various tabloid reports, the royal family worried that Andrew’s legal battle would tarnish the Platinum Jubbly and encouraged a settlement because they wanted to sidestep a media circus. Possibly, they were thinking of the acutely embarrassing interview Andrew granted the BBC in 2019 attempting to clear his name but, ultimately, courting ridicule with wild defenses about his temporary sweatlessness and a Pizza Express in Woking. Setting aside the allegations of serious sex crimes, Andrew has a habit of blundering into scandal: shady real-estate dealings, suspicious associates, and a reputation for buffoonery that is rumored to have made him an easy mark for Epstein and a thorn in the royal family’s side. Yet against seemingly considerable odds, he remained his mother’s favorite. “There was an unbreakable bond between them, and she must have been devastated when his name was dragged through the mud,” royal expert and historian of the queen’s house purse Phil Dampier recently told the Daily Mail. “He only had himself to blame, of course, and it’s difficult to feel sympathy for him, but as a mother, she always supported him.” Conveniently situated at the Royal Lodge, Andrew was close to Windsor Castle and would see his mother “on an almost daily basis,” Dampier said. He bought the queen her first cell phone and replacement corgis and apparently made her laugh. He was, per the Mail, “the spare she had for herself once she had produced the heir,” and the pair enjoyed an improbably warm relationship. Although the queen issued some public punishments over the years — the stripping of Andrew’s HRH and military titles amid rape allegations, the rumored firing from his official duties after the BBC fiasco, the revocation of his trade-envoy title in response to tabloid photos of an Epstein visit — Dampier, at least, believes the queen might have welcomed him back into the fold if she had been younger. And maybe if the aforementioned heir hadn’t been in her ear reportedly lobbying her to please cut Andrew out of the picture. After the duke muscled his way into prime position at Prince Philip’s memorial service in March — stepping in to escort the queen down the center aisle at Westminster Abbey — Charles and William reportedly expressed “regret and consternation.” Fast forward a few months, and Andrew is conspicuously absent at the Platinum Jubbly thanksgiving service thanks to a conveniently timed case of COVID-19. More than a week later, he was scheduled for a public appearance at the Order of the Garter; his name was printed in the program. He didn’t show, relegated to a “private lunch” instead. Although the duke’s camp billed this as a “personal decision,” other royal sources said William and his dad presented a united front to the queen. Some claimed William refused to attend if his uncle was there; others said Charles issued a firm request. In the end, Andrew wound up sidelined. Maybe this offers some indication of the road ahead. Although the prince may walk behind the queen’s coffin and take part in her vigil as she lies in state, The Herald reports that “Charles and William are expected to want the aftermath of the Queen’s funeral to signal the end of Andrew’s public appearances.” Not even the monarch can take away his dukedom — only Parliament can — but Charles does now decide where his relatives get to live and what sort of salary he wants to provide. The Herald notes that Andrew “signed a 75-year lease” on the Royal Lodge in 2003 and would probably have to be repaid for the millions of pounds he has sunk into renovations if he were to move. Before her death, the queen seemingly supplied the bulk of Andrew’s mysterious income from her private Duchy of Lancaster income — that, too, now falls to Charles’s discretion. But if (or when) Andrew finds his circumstances reduced, the most probable outcome for the duke would appear to be life “in the royal wilderness,” as The Herald puts it. Certain royal experts have speculated that casting Andrew out would do more harm than good, allowing him to embark on projects like writing a book and going back on TV. Keeping him quiet and out of the public eye likely works out better for them than setting him loose on the world. But when do members of the royal family ever take the kind of decisive action even the most extreme circumstances seem to call for? Their whole deal is staying silent and carrying on. Prince Andrew may be “reputationally toast,” as media lawyer Mark Stephens told the Daily Mail, and he may “never appear on a royal balcony ever again,” but I personally suspect that he and his horrible teddy-bear collection are staying right where they are. Here’s hoping we hear less about them. www.thecut.com/2022/09/what-happens-to-prince-andrew-now-that-the-queen-has-died.html?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=social_acct&utm_campaign=cut&utm_content=curalate_like2buy_zSEs7K4L__e3854b77-16e2-47fa-9ce5-272f601513ff |
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Post by kittylady on Sept 11, 2022 22:38:08 GMT
Dear writers of The Cut,
The word is Jubilee, not Jubbly. A Jubbly is a frozen drink.
Thanks.
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Post by mel on Sept 11, 2022 22:59:11 GMT
There was this one pic of the foursome where Kate and William were walking about five feet apart. For two people concerned about optics that seems to happen a lot. I do think they are basically business associates though. This one? I saw it on twitter with the caption "where are all those body language experts?"  That's it! I saw the video too and it's not like Kate drifted away for a second to talk to someone or something either. I would say it was because of Harry and Meghan who she didn't acknowledge at all but Kate and William were like this at the Jubilee too. They were never touchy feely but you could see a closeness between them earlier in their marriage that just isn't there now. I don't feel sorry for her either. She knew what she was getting into. Plus, I kind of get a mean girl vibe from her and wonder how much she and her mother had to do with the fallout between William and Harry/Meghan. |
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Post by Sarzy on Sept 11, 2022 23:09:44 GMT
You can see in this video they weren't walking that far apart for long
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Post by chaz on Sept 11, 2022 23:24:11 GMT
Royal protocol is to not show too much public affection. They are professionals not teenagers.
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Post by brookie on Sept 11, 2022 23:43:58 GMT
Royal protocol is to not show too much public affection. They are professionals not teenagers. They're people. It's a shame the restrictions prevent them from acting like they enjoy each other. |
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Post by lindsaywhit on Sept 11, 2022 23:53:18 GMT
Royal protocol is to not show too much public affection. They are professionals not teenagers. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but then I thought about Charles and Camilla. You just know with them, don't you? The way they look together, the way they laugh when they're together - just how they look at each other. That's love in their eyes - unmistakable. It's one of the reasons I eventually warmed to them as a couple. Pretty sure that's what Catherine was hoping for in her marriage. I'm not sure William has that kind of love in him - Harry wasn't the only one traumatized by their parents' scandalous marital problems, divorce, and ultimately the tragic loss of their mother. I think Diana shared way too much of her own troubles with William as well. Look, I'm not excusing William, but he also grew up with his grandparents marriage - one in which Elizabeth was very much in love, and her husband was somewhat discreet. I'll tell you what impressed me about the four of them together - it's obvious the KING told them to get their shit together and go out there to do their bit to show the stability and continuity of the monarchy. Damn, if Charles managed that, maybe they should hand Brexit over to him.  |
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Post by sputnik on Sept 12, 2022 0:24:02 GMT
Dear writers of The Cut, The word is Jubilee, not Jubbly. A Jubbly is a frozen drink. Thanks. they know. the cut is nothing if not tongue in cheek. in the original article, jubbly is hyperlinked to an article that references an incident where royal souvenirs were accidentally misprint as 'platinum jubbly' lol www.bbc.com/news/uk-60218573Royal souvenirs have 'Platinum Jubbly' misprint By Sean Coughlan Royal correspondent Published 1 February  The souvenirs are being sold as having a "slight typo mistake" A spelling mistake on thousands of pieces of Platinum Jubilee merchandising, calling it the "Platinum Jubbly", is proving a challenge for souvenir sellers. The cups and plates were meant to mark the Queen's 70-year reign. Clearance website boss Karl Baxter said - "in classic Del Boy-style" - he will pitch them as collectors' items. "What could be more unique than our limited-edition misprinted crockery?" he said. More than 10,000 pieces of the jubilee memorabilia were produced in China and sent to be sold in the UK, said the clearance firm - except for the slight problem of a misprint, which says "the Platinum Jubbly of Queen Elizabeth II".  More than 10,000 "Jubbly" commemorative pieces have been produced Wholesale Clearance, which deals in bankrupt stock and discontinued lines, said it stepped in to sell the commemorative items - with the products advertised as "Souvenir Stock with Slight Typo Mistake". "This could be your chance to get your hands on a novelty souvenir for a fraction of the price," claimed Mr Baxter, with a 90% discount on offer. Invoking the spirit of market traders from the TV comedy, the firm's website promises: "Become an Only Fools and Horses fan and wow your friends with your Lovely Jubbly set!"  The importer didn't quite get the product they were expecting The wholesale firm is advertising the misprinted cups, mugs and commemorative plates as a single lot to retailers - with a spokesman saying: "There's a market for everything". The Platinum Jubilee will be marked with a four-day holiday in June, with concerts, parties, pageants - and maybe some jubilee bubbly. www.bbc.com/news/uk-60218573 |
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Post by waterslide on Sept 12, 2022 0:42:59 GMT
Re the article about Prince Andrew, I really love the phrase "reputationally toast".
As for Kate, I don't think anyone can know what they're getting into when they sign up for royal life. She might have known more than Diana and Meghan, but how do you know what it's like until you're in the middle of it?
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