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Post by no on Jun 2, 2022 11:07:14 GMT
^^^^ i really can't with those people and the internalized misogyny. i know some in real life too and i just don't think i'll ever look at them in the same way again. few things are more toxic than fandom. depp's a bloated, washed out has been any woman that can still support that cunt after all of this has no self respect. would they really want to be in a relationship with him and have to deal with the varied type of abuses they'd have to deal with? or are they so up their own ass that they think they could be the magic woman who "changes" him? it makes me sick.
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Post by MsDark on Jun 2, 2022 12:13:11 GMT
I'm really Glad that Johnny Depp Won. Truth has prevailed and Justice has been served. He can now be free, moves on, completely heal and be happy.
Regarding sociopath Amber Heard, karma is a bitch and what goes around, comes around. She doesn't represent women or real abuse victims. She represents the worst of women. Not really. Now his name will FOREVER have some connection/association to hers and a "social issue" (that being whatever this whole unnecessary show did or didn't do for victims and/or accusers of DV). His chance to actually do what you wrote (the part that I highlighted) was after they split. He wouldn't or couldn't. On some level she couldn't either (there, does that make you happy? I said something negative about her too <eyeroll>) That's why this whole thing happened. Wake me when he's no longer a hot mess on a platter. Or when people stop being idiots over this loser.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Jun 2, 2022 16:28:16 GMT
Here is an exchange between Depp and Paul Bettany in 2013 before Depp even married Heard: ----------------------- One message, sent in 2013, made lewd reference to Heard’s “beaver”, and discussed her murder by “burning” or “drowning”. “I’m not sure we should burn Amber,” wrote Bettany. “She is delightful company and pleasing on the eye. We could of course do the English course of action and perform a drowning test. Thoughts? You have a swimming pool.” Depp replied: “Let’s drown her before we burn her!!! I will fuck her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she’s dead.” To which Bettany apparently wrote back: “My thoughts entirely. Let’s be certain before we pronounce her a witch.” I'm well aware of his text messages, I watched the entire court case. Writing asinine texts to a friend doesn't an abuser make. Paul Bettany replied with the same, does that mean he's at home possibly abusing his wife? I texted a couple friends my plan to run my ex over with my car repeatedly and slice his dick off ala Lorena Bobbitt and nailing it to a tree. Does that mean I'm abuser, or just someone with a dark sense of humour? As someone who has been married for 30 years without speculating on burning and raping my wife's corpse, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it more than proves an abusive mindset. During marriage, before marriage, whenever - it's f*cked up. Bettany did not cover himself with glory, but he is not responsible for what Depp said. Does sharing with friends over a platform that could be subpoenaed that you want to mutilate someone else indicate an abusive mindset? I would say at least you were at the end of your relationship and letting off steam. That was not the case with Depp.
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Post by czb on Jun 2, 2022 16:30:11 GMT
i get mad at my husband sometimes and i have a dark sense of humor but there is no way i would've authored (or even conceived of) such hateful texts.
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Post by ravenna on Jun 2, 2022 17:42:34 GMT
It's sad that there are women out there who would hear about texts like that and think of it as dark humour rather than a huge red flag.
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Post by greysfang on Jun 2, 2022 18:17:29 GMT
Y'all need to chill.
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Post by kittylady on Jun 2, 2022 18:53:45 GMT
I'm just glad that my old phone is long dead and gone and nobody can read my old texts. Or the dark stories that I wrote as a way of working through my anger. Or see the dreams I had about feeding my ex feet first to insane giant piggies after reading Hannibal.
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Post by waterslide on Jun 2, 2022 19:31:05 GMT
^^^^ i really can't with those people and the internalized misogyny. i know some in real life too and i just don't think i'll ever look at them in the same way again. few things are more toxic than fandom. depp's a bloated, washed out has been Same. It's a lot of, "Believe every victim except Amber Heard". I saw a RL facebook person made a T-shirt with Johnny's face on it, something about "It's a 5 o'clock somewhere" (because that's original), and all of her friends fell over themselves to beg her to make them a shirt, and how cute they were going to look on their trips to Cabo, etc. By Johnny's own admission he has addiction issues, so it's extra gross people think this is OK and that it's somehow supporting him. I'm well aware of his text messages, I watched the entire court case. Writing asinine texts to a friend doesn't an abuser make. Paul Bettany replied with the same, does that mean he's at home possibly abusing his wife? I texted a couple friends my plan to run my ex over with my car repeatedly and slice his dick off ala Lorena Bobbitt and nailing it to a tree. Does that mean I'm abuser, or just someone with a dark sense of humour? As someone who has been married for 30 years without speculating on burning and raping my wife's corpse, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it more than proves an abusive mindset. During marriage, before marriage, whenever - it's f*cked up. Bettany did not cover himself with glory, but he is not responsible for what Depp said. Does sharing with friends over a platform that could be subpoenaed that you want to mutilate someone else indicate an abusive mindset? I would say at least you were at the end of your relationship and letting off steam. That was not the case with Depp. i get mad at my husband sometimes and i have a dark sense of humor but there is no way i would've authored (or even conceived of) such hateful texts. I also have a dark sense of humor (and even a temper) and would never say that I'd like to burn, drown, rape, etc. someone I was dating. I couldn't conceive of doing that, either. I also can't imagine, even when I was young and dumb, wanting to stay with someone who said those things about me. It's not like, "Omg, waterslide is being such a bitch today!" It's more like, "I'm one of the most beautiful, talented, and rich men in the world and I'm still so insecure that I like to joke about staging an enactment of a viking funeral with my girlfriend and laugh about it with my creepy actor friend." Speaking of the creepy actor friend, Paul Bettany makes my skin crawl. I know he and Johnny are kidding, and Paul's not responsible for Johnny, but I also imagine Paul on the other end of the phone twirling his cartoon villain mustache and smirking over his own "wit". I remember lots of stories, rumors, and blinds about him being a fucking asshole to Jennifer Connelly. Allegedly, etc. He's also a great actor, but seems to be fucked in the head as well.
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Post by waterslide on Jun 2, 2022 19:36:34 GMT
I'm just glad that my old phone is long dead and gone and nobody can read my old texts. Or the dark stories that I wrote as a way of working through my anger. Or see the dreams I had about feeding my ex feet first to insane giant piggies after reading Hannibal. I would never equate fiction with those texts, though. That's completely separate in my mind and would never hold a story someone writes against them. And certainly not their dreams.
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Post by czb on Jun 2, 2022 19:40:48 GMT
i never heard anything about paul bettany. what's up with him - waterslide. or anyone else who knows something
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Post by waterslide on Jun 2, 2022 19:48:37 GMT
i never heard anything about paul bettany. what's up with him - waterslide . or anyone else who knows something Unfortunately, I probably have no receipts since so much has been scrubbed off the internet, but if memory serves me correctly, he was rumored to be very controlling (allegedly). A lot of gossip blogs were saying that he might have been encouraging Jennifer to lose a lot of weight and keep it off, which is why you would see pap pics of her running almost every day - which, who knows? I also remember reading an interview with I think Jennifer where Paul sort of drops in like a spider and starts speaking to her like she's a child and it was odd enough that the interviewer mentioned that the exchange was odd. eta While looking for receipts, I found this which proves nothing but is kind of à propos (although ridiculous)... Blind Gossip
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Post by sputnik on Jun 2, 2022 20:50:46 GMT
The texts are the least disturbing thing about this whole case to me, I think they’re pretty inconsequential and it could well be typical dark humour/banter between depp and Bettany.
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Post by greysfang on Jun 2, 2022 21:01:01 GMT
But why aren't y'all believing Johnny? Even after the tapes were played in court of Amber admitting to hitting him and threatening to do more?
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Post by waterslide on Jun 2, 2022 21:14:05 GMT
But why aren't y'all believing Johnny? Even after the tapes were played in court of Amber admitting to hitting him and threatening to do more? I do believe Johnny, actually. I haven't forgotten she did hit him and quibble over whether it was a punch or not. I also think purposely shitting in someone's bed is abuse for that matter. Even the weird babytalk was borderline abusive because I know she was doing it to get a rise out of him. I'm having trouble explaining what I'm reacting to with all of this. This board is the only place where I feel comfortable even hinting that I believe Amber's side should be heard. Not that she's innocent, but that she has a right to defend herself. Some of my friends on Twitter - not just randos - are very firmly in Depp's camp and will not even entertain the idea that both Johnny and Amber were bad and did bad things. It's the black-and-white blind adoration for Johnny vs the rabid hate of Amber that's making me side eye them.
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Post by sputnik on Jun 2, 2022 21:18:20 GMT
Because there is physical evidence of his abuse of heard, there are two other women who said he was an abusive jerk, he had a documented history of being violent and trashing rooms and getting into fights, and he has another trial coming up for beating up someone else on set. I think amber is a mess and a piece of work but i think depp was the primary abuser/aggressor in the relationship. Just because she fought back and was also physically violent doesn’t change that. www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jun/01/amber-heard-johnny-depp-trial-metoo-backlash
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