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Post by o0amber0o on Aug 7, 2022 11:49:46 GMT
I mean all you have to do is compare a photo of the boys with her and the boys with their father, it's quite clear that they enjoy being around their father and seem to be living as stable as a life as they could. It frustrates me how people refer to Kevin as some kind of financial leech. I know we all roll our eyes at the excessive amount of child support he gets/requests but child support is based on income. He has full custody so she has to pay what the court orders and that's that. I also agree with beeyotch that Jamie is probably trying to release her records to clear his name. I'm guessing he deals with a lot of shit from the Free Britney crowd on a daily basis and he's probably just sick of it. I also don't feel like the public is entitled to that information but I can understand where he's coming form on that front. I can't even comment on her angry word salad.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Aug 7, 2022 13:52:18 GMT
Britney has financially supported him and the other kids If you don't want to be financially supporting people, stop marrying people who have a fraction of your income. Whoops, she did it again (June 9)!
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Post by mel on Aug 7, 2022 14:41:57 GMT
I wondered if there were issues when the boys didn't go to her wedding. I'm sure they've gotten teased in school. Britney doesn't get it. Yes, other parents have done worse, and their kids probably found it embarrassing too. No kids want to see their parents nude or have their friends see their mom pose nude.
The problem with the FreeBritney crowd is they don't seem to understand that more than one thing can be true at once. The conservatorship very well may have saved Britney's life. She more than likely had/has serious mental health issues. Her family may even have had good intentions at the start. Still, Jamie should never have been the person in charge and abuses occurred.
Britney has financially supported Federline and his kids. That's what happens when one parent makes more money. He doesn't even get as much as some ex wives of other stars, and they don't get called leeches or whatever.
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Post by MsDark on Aug 7, 2022 16:01:21 GMT
We've been through this before and I'm team Federline here. I never in a million years thought I'd be saying this when they first got together because he seemed like a trashy piece and an opportunist then. But he's stepped up and given these kids a life they would never have been able to have with their mom. He's even made sure the Spears clan were still able to be involved with the kids (til Jamie threw a fit in front of/toward one of the boys). Britters got to see them and have a relationship to the extent that she was capable.
He gave up his own career. I don't think people realize he actually had one. But as a dancer and touring for big name acts he probably would have had a shorter window of years (compared to other professions) where he could do this. Once dancers kind of age out of doing gigs they might end up choreographers or instructors. He had to step in and take custody of and raise kids full time because their mother was not capable. This was a way different situation than with his first wife, who was still able to be a parent to their oldest while he was tour. So he effectively did what most women do and gave up his career to be a parent.
I don't think enough credit is given to him for maintaining a relationship with the Spears clan for the sake of the boys despite the fact that they gave him shit about the money/child support he was receiving right and left AND publicly, making him look like a leech in various articles. Obviously because that meant there was less to go around to support their greedy asses (the true leeches from day one)...who had been supported by Britney all along.
I don't agree with releasing her medical records. But I understand that's probably all her father has to get out of this mess. Do I think he probably deserves it? Yes. But do I think she should probably just drop it because getting back at her father is going to do what, exactly? It's certainly not going to yield her anything financially. It's not going to replace the years she missed out on having a life. I don't think it's going to do anything but satisfy a need for revenge, affect her future and create a media circus that will probably negatively impact the boys.
This is an unhealthy situation but the best way out of it would be to drop the lawsuit. She has control over her life and money now. Living well would be the best (and healthiest) 'revenge' IMO. Why not just show your dad and everyone why exactly you don't need them taking care of you and your money? Or why someone else being a conservator (who would help you manage money/career but where you would still be allowed to have a life that was your own) would have worked better.
And maybe focus on what you claim to want now, to be married to this dude and have a life and baybees with him. I think if Britney were a normal adult woman this age that this would be a conclusion she'd come to. But she's like an angry teenager. What she's going to do is show everyone why she needed a conservatorship in the first place. Ultimately, the conservatorship did save her life. If it hadn't been initiated by her family it probably would not have happened. But after it was established, at some point her father should have backed out and handed things over to someone else a long time ago.
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Post by waterslide on Aug 7, 2022 22:20:14 GMT
^All of that MsDark. Earlier on in thread, I had said something about how stunted she is. Even saying that, I don't think I realized how little Britney matured over these 13 years. She complains that she had to work against her will, but now she doesn't have anything to do, which is probably even worse in some ways. Maybe she really is going to put out another album, but it just seems like she wants to be a full time mess.
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Post by trixie on Aug 8, 2022 1:54:02 GMT
Yeah, I think I said earlier in the thread that if she really wants to get on with her life, drop all this lawsuit shit. She should be enjoying her newfound freedom with her new husband, but instead she's stuck in her teens and how she was done wrong. I won't argue that she wasn't, but damn you're forty now just move on and enjoy your life. I don't see how Jamie is harassing and bullying her, maybe he's just trying to get on with his life too.
Re KFed, I agree with MsDark that KFed essentially gave up his career to take care of those kids. Granted, who knows how much he might have earned as a dancer. but we'll never know now. When he filed for more support in 2018, he said he had aged out as a dancer and was making $3k a month as a DJ. So compare his $36k a year to Britney's $36m a year, and tell me he's getting too much child support. It was mentioned upthread that Britney was supporting Kevin, his wife and six children. That's probably right, but Kevin has 2 kids with a multi-millionaire mom, how can he balance his household telling the others that Preston and Jayden get private school, but they don't. They get vacations in Hawaii with their mom, but they don't.
No judge is going to award custody to the parent who earns $36k a year and not grant mucho support from the non-custodial parent. Those kids shouldn't have to go from the opulence of Britney's new $11m house to whatever Kevin can afford on $36k a year. That's not how it works.
eta: Re her medical records, normally I would say no way to that, but she is the one alleging all this mismanagement. Non-lawyer IMO but I don't see how they can have it both ways. Either she needed the conservatorship or she didn't and her medical records are relevent. Not saying they should be released to the public, but maybe in front of the judge who is hearing this case. Or maybe the judge has already seen them, i unno. Not a lawyer.
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Post by MsDark on Aug 8, 2022 3:05:39 GMT
Victoria Prince was a professional volleyball player. I know she has a college degree too. Speech or something like this I think. And used to teach. Apparently had a fairly decent net worth of her own. Not Britney money by a long shot. But she wasn't starving before she hooked up with KFed and popped out a couple of her own little Feds.
I'm a little surprised KFed was able to pull a woman like this, frankly. I guess you never know. I remember his stint on Celeb Fit Club and this was where I started to think he wasn't such a bad guy. He seemed pretty laid back and likeable and a good dad. As a dancer Kevin went on tour with some big names (like Justin Timberlake for one, but many others). He's probably had a chance to travel the world and I'm sure he made pretty good money. If you are the type of dancer who can tour with major names you are usually able to parlay this into some good career even after you age out of performing/touring. (Like owning your own studio, teaching, being a choreographer).
I don't think anyone would have been on the streets starving without Britters' fortune.
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Post by waterslide on Aug 8, 2022 3:15:54 GMT
I remember when Britney and KFed had their own reality show, which is just bizarre to think about, but he did seem laid back and patient and down to earth on that show. She seemed really flaky, which is not surprising. But that's when I started to think he wasn't so bad and my opinion grew after that.
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Post by trixie on Aug 8, 2022 3:23:27 GMT
Yeah, I can understand why Britney is bitter about supporting her family all these years--and I mean Lynne, Jamie, Jamie Lynn. But she should NOT be bitter about providing for her boys. And the man who raised them when she was not capable. They/He deserve it much more than your grifter relatives.
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Post by MsDark on Aug 8, 2022 4:40:33 GMT
And as mentioned upthread, if you don't want to support these dudes, then maybe pick better (richer) dudes?
She should not have a word to say about KFed cause he raised their children. His wife too for that matter. Even Shar Jackson probably helped for that matter.
It seems like Kevin gets along with all his exes at least. Even though he probably inwardly cringes at the shit Britney does now he's not said anything bad about her. He was trying to defend her to the boys when they were embarrassed.
Britney is reacting just like a teenager with unfettered access to social media would. This is exactly why they didn't let her have a phone and access to social media. For her own protection because she's not mature enough or in possession of enough self-control to keep from saying whatever pops into her head the second she's feeling it without waiting until she's calmed down.
I'm sure the FreeBritneys and the fans/stans will eat it up, but I predict eventually she'll go too far and get backlash even from her current supporters/fans and it will become painfully obvious why she needed to be in a conservatorship.
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Post by grandknight on Aug 8, 2022 11:17:24 GMT
Even if her medical records were released publicly, I don't think anyone would be surprised. We've heard everything from Dementia, Schizophrenia, to Bi-Polar Disorder. She definitely needed some care, however, I think her parents could have been more supportive such as allowing her to have a cellphone for example.
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Post by no1novice on Aug 8, 2022 11:38:44 GMT
Just to (re-) quote what Jamie's lawyer said:-
On July 22, the suspended conservator‘s lawyer, Alex Weingarten, argued in a motion that Britney, 40, should be deposed and included some of the Grammy winner’s previously unsealed medical records as exhibits.
However, Weingarten tells Page Six that “there is no part of this that is an effort to leak records to the public.”
He explains, “There is a procedure that you must follow to file documents under seal of the court, and that is the procedure we followed.”
When pushed on whether the previously sealed documents that were included as exhibits could eventually be unsealed, Weingarten tells us his team is “attempting to negotiate” for a “protective order governing the use of confidential information.”
“What would happen, if we ever get the deposition and there were ever legitimately confidential information, then it would be shielded from public view,” he adds.
As shady as Jamie may be, the lawyer is an officer of the court.
Also, I saw that Brit's lawyer said that the FBI commented on Jamie's (alleged) evesdropping - I doubt that they did....
Oh look "former"
I would expect that a surveillance company to know the law, my bad...
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Post by greysfang on Aug 8, 2022 20:40:52 GMT
Papa Zao raised six kids and two other baby mamas on Brit’s money, so he can shut it.
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Post by dolem on Aug 8, 2022 23:24:13 GMT
He has, he rarely, if ever, talks about her. I'm strangely on his side because by all accounts he's been a good and stable parent for their kids. If a woman divorced her much wealthier husband, got a settlement and child support we don't say anything. But, if a man does it's somehow wrong.
Britney should be paying for her kids and supporting them in the lifestyle she has, just like any other court ordered child support arrangement.
Do we know what triggered Kevin to do this interview?
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Post by MsDark on Aug 8, 2022 23:47:07 GMT
Papa Zao raised six kids and two other baby mamas on Brit’s money, so he can shut it. I think the only one with a right to say anything is the man who raised these kids. If he was that into profiting from his crotchfruit he would have done like the K-Holes and pimped them out and made them famous from babyhood. Maybe even hooked up with someone else famous after Britney. But he didn't. He gave them as normal a life as was possible being Britters' kids. No telling what all he's shielded them from. You know damned well if Lynne Spears had custody she would have turned these kids into cash cows to keep that gravy train rolling. I think he deserves more money than any of these fuckers she's been supporting since day one. Even if by extension that means a couple baby-mama's and half sibs get to live well too. Maybe Britters should have thought about this before she decided he was such a prize she had to have him even though he was in a relationship that already included one child and another on the way. You can't tell me she couldn't have done better than him in her prime. I think that whole relationship with him was a big "fuck you" to her parents. What triggered this interview is pretty easy to see for me: All this drama is affecting the boys negatively. Plus, if she doesn't drop the lawsuit and her medical records get shared, there could be things in there about the boys. Especially the one she shut herself in a room with when he was a practically baby during that instance where they had to do a 5150 and remove her from the house and cart her off to the psych hospital. Even the kids themselves might not know/remember everything that happened during that time.
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