Paris Hilton Welcomes Baby Boy Via Surrogate

[MsDark]

I just don't think she should let any of this bother her.

[loftybike]

^^^This!
I really hope the surrogate had a caesarian, though.

[no1novice]

She *shouldn't* let it bother her but I bet it does.
The woman that wouldn't be caught without her *blue* contacts - yeah, it bothers her.

[sputnik]

I think it would bother any mother to know her kid is being mocked for the way he looks, famous or not.

[faithanne]

I was a little chonker and had a big fat bald head until I turned 1, and my mother would get strangers coming up to her and remarking on it. I was pretty cute though, so she would always get backhanded compliments like "Such a pretty baby, I hope she grows into that head!" etc (jury is still out on that).

[MsDark]

Dark Jr had droopy eyelids (ptosis) in both eyes and people would comment all the time "Oh, he must be sleepy" but sometimes it was flat out "What's wrong with his eyes?" "What are you going to do about his eyes?" or "When are you going to do something about his eyes".  Or even "You know, you should do something about that".  As if to imply I deliberately wasn't doing anything, and if I was a good parent I should be getting that fixed instantly.

Yes even family. I can't say it never irked me. And yes I got tired of explaining it.  I got to where I did not let it affect me but my mother-in-law would be visibly upset when anyone commented at all.

There was actually not much that could be done about his eyes until he was at least 2-3 years old because he was too little to have surgery for this as a baby. But if anything, his neck muscles developed early and his ability to sit up without having his head supported came early because he had to crane his neck slightly to look at things because he couldn't open his eyes as wide as your average baby. And yes he had a couple of surgeries when he was big enough to have them.

If I were a mother in this era I suppose I would be highly offended and throwing a hissy fit about cruelty.

People thought I was a boy as a baby partly because I was bald for fucking ever. And infants and babies had lots more gender neutral clothing back in the days before you knew the gender of your baby ahead of the game. When they found out I wasn't a boy but actually a girl:  "Oh that's too bad. I'm sure she'll grow some hair eventually"

I also remember my 10 year old pre-puberty "belly" getting a poke from the mother of a neighbor girl I used to play with and her remarking that I needed to watch the sweets and snacks because I was "getting a little fat".  I felt self-conscious for a long ass time after this.  To the point where I started going on walks/running with my dad.  A year or so later once I got my period and grew an inch or two the "belly" disappeared.  

I dunno I just remember people commenting all the time and being matter of fact about anything they didn't see every day. So to me, a lot of these comments about the kid's head seem pretty benign. I mean, he does have a big one.

[sputnik]

^^^^
you might have gotten over the belly poke but a lot of girls and women developed eating disordered or at the very least unhealthy relationships with food and body image issues from 'benign' comments about girls' and women's bodies that were way too common back then. and you shouldn't have felt the need to start running because of it, even at that age. that shouldn't be the motivation to exercise. i can't tell you the number of people (relatives, friends, parents of other kids, people who were barely acquaintances) i heard make comments about my or my sister's weights and stages of puberty, or other girls'. it was totally normal or acceptable and my own mother grew up with it and passed on her issues to my sister and i but that doesn't make it ok. they might not have realised the harm they were doing but there was nothing ok about it.

i know we often complain that people today are too sensitive, etc. but this is one area where i think parents today are doing a way better job than ours did. there's a reason media was so cruel and demeaning to women and their body images back in the early 00's, it was the combination of the internet era beginning and generations brought up to think it was ok to talk about women like that and judge their appearances and their weight. i think parents today are right to demand respect for their kids and correct the olds when they fuck up, like my sister has to do with my mother when she starts making comments about other women's appearances in front of my nieces, or when she puts too much emphasis on their appearance. my sister doesn't want them to grow up feeling like their self-worth is tied to their looks or their weight the way we were, even if it wasn't my mother's intention. they'll get enough of that from social media and TV no need to reinforce that shit at home.

[czb]

^^^ this.

commenting on girls/young women is so common that is accepted. how many times have STRANGERS said to young women they don't know:

you would look so much prettier if you smiled?
you would look nicer in different clothes?
you would look better if you lost weight?
etc.

i didn't get it so bad because i was ultra thin growing up but i still remember people who didn't know me or didn't know me well making comments about my clothes, posture, or whatever. it is so inappropriate and luckily it happens less now. but still happens. i remember when i was at REI getting fitted for hiking shoes when i was preggo with twins. TWINS. so maybe i was ~6 months pregnant. the woman sitting next to me asked me how far along i was and like an idjit i told her. i will also say that i was not gaining much weight per my perinatologist so wasn't YUGE but wasn't one of the pregnant aphid types, either. anyway, i told asshole lady how far along i wass and her jaw dropped and she said WOW you're big. i told her i was expecting twins. i almost asked her how many she was carrying since she was quite chub but i didn't because her young daughter was there. and my poor neighbor, a gorgeous glamazon who is lanky and nearly 6 feet tall (she played D1 vball in college). she has just delivered her *3rd* baby and was still thin but had a bit of post delivery weight but not much. but some ASSHOLE *woman* at whole foods asked her how far along she was. i just happened to run into glamazon on her return from WF and she was visibly upset, nearly in tears, so asked her what was wrong. she told me and i told her that woman was an idiot and should be ashamed of herself.

this isn't people being too sensitive. it's other people not having boundaries. this is something that pisses me off. can you tell??

[kittylady]

Oct 30, 2023 3:05:10 GMT faithanne said:

I was a little chonker and had a big fat bald head until I turned 1, and my mother would get strangers coming up to her and remarking on it. I was pretty cute though, so she would always get backhanded compliments like "Such a pretty baby, I hope she grows into that head!" etc (jury is still out on that).

If it makes you feel any better, Ma Kitty will cheerfully tell anyone who'll listen that I looked like a baby orangutan until I got a bit bigger.

[MsDark]

Yeah in a way it's fucked, and of course the lady was kind of a cunty bitch, but I'm kind of glad that I wasn't allowed to go past prepuberty pudge and proceed with getting outright fat as a kid with my parents and everyone just keeping mum and pretending it wasn't happening. I can assure you, this would have resulted in way more misery and self-consciousness for me than a one-off remark.

It's not like exercise was forced onto me. My parents were very active with some sort of exercise on a daily basis already and this was the kind of household I grew up in. Yeah that comment probably spurred me on. But I don't think to be motivated by it was necessarily a bad thing.  This is not what people want to hear or a popular opinion today, I realize.  Because eating disorders and shit.  

My dad has been a runner ever since high school and pretty much assumed I just wanted to follow in his footsteps and was ready to start exercising with him and thus he was happy to be able to spend that time with me. It's not like I went and told him it had to do with Mrs so-and-so saying I was getting fat. It never really occurred to me to tell my parents about that. I filed it away that it was just her being the bitch she was. But it's not like she was wrong. The fact that what she was saying was true annoyed me more than her saying it.

I have no idea how they would have reacted if I had told them.  Honestly?  Probably nothing woud have come of it.  

[tulip]

She just had a girl via surrogate -- London. LMAO because back in the day my kids watched The Suite Life of Zach and Cody on Disney and there was a character named London Tipton who was Paris-esque hotel heiress.

[coppercatseye]

She’s collecting them like she used to do with puppies. And her husband has a daughter whom he ignores.

[constancespry]

She’s the type who’ll insist on “getting rid” of the pets because “with new baybeeees, they are too much work”, or some other BS excuse. I really hope those kids grow up to be exactly what she deserves.

[mivvi21]

I'm just gonna say it because I'm sure I'm far from alone in this belief, but Paris Hilton should not be raising children, ever. Money does not mean everything, and it certainly does not buy her the ability to give two shits about anyone or anything but herself. These kids will almost certainly be raised dysfunctional and by multiple nannies. Paris is not cut out for mothering, sorry.

[MsDark]

I mean, at least she's got enough money and resources to hire some competent nannies who will hopefully provide some of what she isn't cut out for.