Kanye claims Kim K accused him of ‘putting a hit out on her"

[o0amber0o]

Mar 17, 2022 20:06:11 GMT no1novice said:

He needs a 5150 hold. He’s going to spiral & escalate & do god knows what & maybe even to those kids.
Britney was publicly less crazy than this & look what happened to her.



And wtf is it with those boots???

Awful boots aside, I have to disagree here.  Britney was out in public threatening violence AND acting on it (umbrellagate 2007) - I know that there were circumstances with paparazzi involved but that in addition to her other strange behaviors like shaving her head, blowing through cash on Cheetos and going barefoot into gas station bathrooms in the middle of the night all capped off with her locking herself in her closet with her toddler boys (twice).  

Now, I'm not saying Kanye isn't capable of any of that, but as of right now we haven't seen any kind of violent acts from him outside of his "art" and Tweets - and we have no way of knowing anything about what went on behind closed doors.  It's really, REALLY hard to nail someone down criminally for stuff that they said, so it's not going to do anything in mental health courts.  

I'm not a sympathizer by any means - he's clearly sick, I feel bad for their children to have to witness it all and be a part of it - but he and Britney are two different storms.

[no1novice]

I respect your opinion Ravenna & Amber; and I truely understand that my opinion is shaded by my personal experience.

When I see stuff like this:-
“ This is why I go so hard for my family I am wired to protect my family at all cost As the priest of my home Don’t worry Northy God is still alive.””

It makes me wonder just what he will do and I sadly don’t think that it will end well.
Regardless of KK’s physical security, this kind of grandiose egotistical narcissism, with classic signs of love-bombing (Valentine’s day literal truck full of roses), control, the way he ignored and knows better than anyone else (ex-wife, lawyer, Doctor’s, etc).
It is so likely that he’s been (trying to) control everything while married - we saw it with the last gf, buying her (literal) tonnes of clothes so she even dresses like he wants her to; now dating women that look like KK; trying to delay the divorce by firing his lawyer (again); still wanting to control his ex-wife be the motions that are being put before court (trying to deny spousal privilege if KK marries again; pretending this is all about his retirement funds while trying to freeze her business assets; they have pre-nups so it should be an easy split).

And as Kitty said pages ago, all it’ll take is one (equally) crazy Kanye Stan…….

[kittylady]

Mar 18, 2022 3:37:02 GMT no1novice said:

It makes me wonder just what he will do and I sadly don’t think that it will end well.
Regardless of KK’s physical security, this kind of grandiose egotistical narcissism, with classic signs of love-bombing (Valentine’s day literal truck full of roses), control, the way he ignored and knows better than anyone else (ex-wife, lawyer, Doctor’s, etc).
It is so likely that he’s been (trying to) control everything while married - we saw it with the last gf, buying her (literal) tonnes of clothes so she even dresses like he wants her to; now dating women that look like KK; trying to delay the divorce by firing his lawyer (again); still wanting to control his ex-wife be the motions that are being put before court (trying to deny spousal privilege if KK marries again; pretending this is all about his retirement funds while trying to freeze her business assets; they have pre-nups so it should be an easy split).

And as Kitty said pages ago, all it’ll take is one (equally) crazy Kanye Stan…….

That was my second thought after seeing those pictures of him with Saint (the first was how unhappy the kid looked).  Now he can no longer control how Kim dresses he's moving on to treating his kids as an extension of himself (which is apparently not uncommon).

On a side note, someone should have a word with the guy on the right - those socks with those slip on shoes? Just no.

[funky]

It's not true though that he never showed any violent acts. In January he punched a fan who asked for his autograph.
In 2014 he had to attend 24 anger management sessions and complete 250 hours of community service for punching a paparazzo.
2008 he was arrested following another altercation with photographers, the case got dismissed but he had to attend anger management counselling as well.
Then there was an incident where he chased down and punched a teenager for hurling racial abuse at Kim, and he paid 250k to end the dispute.

While you can argue that punching someone for a racial slur and punching paparazzi is somewhat understandable (but still 99% of the population would probably not act that way) - hitting a fan in the head and the neck for asking for a an autograph is alarming and for me shows a clear escalation.

[loftybike]

I honestly feel that he's far more dangerous than Britney has ever been, he just doesn't act out physically in public. I really don't like Kim, but she's so rich and famous and still can't escape the (verbal?) abuse of her husband. What does that say about the state of the world? Almost everything I read about Ye ends with "...but he's such a genius" as if that makes him less dangerous or less an asshole. Men get away with so much bullshit. The boy looks so uncomfortable and in the first pic, downright scared.

[ravenna]

Mar 18, 2022 9:19:24 GMT funky said:

It's not true though that he never showed any violent acts. In January he punched a fan who asked for his autograph.
In 2014 he had to attend 24 anger management sessions and complete 250 hours of community service for punching a paparazzo.
2008 he was arrested following another altercation with photographers, the case got dismissed but he had to attend anger management counselling as well.
Then there was an incident where he chased down and punched a teenager for hurling racial abuse at Kim, and he paid 250k to end the dispute.

While you can argue that punching someone for a racial slur and punching paparazzi is somewhat understandable (but still 99% of the population would probably not act that way) - hitting a fan in the head and the neck for asking for a an autograph is alarming and for me shows a clear escalation.

Whoa!  I had not heard any of that.  I agree it's particularly alarming about the fan.

[burnt_toast]

This whole Kanye thing makes me nervous. I've been Kim in this situation (I mean, with better style, smaller ass and no money) and it's mindbogglingly terrifying when someone won't let go. My experience started with the phrase 'it's still my house and you're still my wife' and ended with an attempt on my life. His language is very controlling and 'romantically' charged. He's both the family protector and the victim .. and I think that position can easily lead to very dangerous behaviors that can feel fully justified to a mentally ill abuser.

I know I'm projecting, but my god he smells like my ex-husband. I'm trying to watch this unfold and enjoy the popcorn but I mostly just find it really triggering and unnerving.

[kittylady]

Mar 18, 2022 12:40:05 GMT loftybike said:

I honestly feel that he's far more dangerous than Britney has ever been, he just doesn't act out physically in public. I really don't like Kim, but she's so rich and famous and still can't escape the (verbal?) abuse of her husband. What does that say about the state of the world? Almost everything I read about Ye ends with "...but he's such a genius" as if that makes him less dangerous or less an asshole. Men get away with so much bullshit. The boy looks so uncomfortable and in the first pic, downright scared.

I agree. In fact, I'm finding his slow internal burn more worrying than Brit's outbursts because if/when he finally goes completely over the edge it's going to be bad. Really bad.

I'm also disgusted by all the fanbois claiming that this is all Kim's fault.  Kim, as much as I dislike her, did not cause him to develop bi-polar disorder, nor did she cause him to go off his meds. She's allowed to move on with her life and date someone else, just the same as he has, so that's no excuse either.

Mar 18, 2022 14:32:04 GMT burnt_toast said:

This whole Kanye thing makes me nervous. I've been Kim in this situation (I mean, with better style, smaller ass and no money) and it's mindbogglingly terrifying when someone won't let go. My experience started with the phrase 'it's still my house and you're still my wife' and ended with an attempt on my life. His language is very controlling and 'romantically' charged. He's both the family protector and the victim .. and I think that position can easily lead to very dangerous behaviors that can feel fully justified to a mentally ill abuser.

I know I'm projecting, but my god he smells like my ex-husband. I'm trying to watch this unfold and enjoy the popcorn but I mostly just find it really triggering and unnerving.

Same here. You aren't a person in their eyes; you are property that's only allowed to exist within the sphere that they dictate for you. Even when you split and they have their next poor sucker hooked they still think they have ownership rights over you forever.

[trixie]

Yeah, I really don't get people saying he's harmless and would never act on his threats. The mere fact that he's saying these things still terrorizes his victims. Why should they always have to be looking over their shoulders just in case he blows? Bullshit that he can get away with making threats disguised as "art".

[no1novice]

It’s because we “normalise” the extreme, the uncomfortable, try to pretend that it didn’t happen (if it’s irl); or it’s not as serious as some others make out.


If he is in a “manic” phase now, I would be concerned about what would happen when he “crashes” especially if he was with my kids.
Will he be ok? Will he harm himself? Will he harm my kids? Would be the questions running through my head.
As dislikable as KK is I don’t think anyone deserves that. Maybe I’m getting soft in my old age.


Also if something does happen, it’ll be all this publicity and hand wringing about “what could have been done differently” when the signs are clear.

[o0amber0o]

I wasn't aware of his violence and stints in Anger Management, I should have known better!

At any rate - I definitely don't want to be coming across as him being harmless or that his rantings are OK, but the reality is he's an American with freedom of speech rights and it seems like a lot of people are calling for someone to do something about that. The only people who can REALLY do anything here is Kim or someone else who is feeling personally threatened by him by getting some kind of court order against him.

[no]

Kanye West Pulled From Grammy Awards Performance, Rep Cites “Concerning Online Behavior”
By Bruce Haring

Kanye West has apparently been pulled from a planned live performance at the upcoming Grammy Awards, with one report in Variety quoting his represenative as saying the action was taken because of “concerning online behavior.”

The 64th Grammy Awards will be held April 3 at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas, with Trevor Noah again acting as host. CBS will broadcast the event live and stream live and on demand on Paramount+. West is nominated for five Grammy Awards.

West’s erratic behavior has escalated lately, with his latest incident targeting Noah with a racial slur for defending West’s ex-wife, Kim Kardashian, and urging West to seek help for his admitted mental health problems. West was banned from Instagram for 24 hours earlier this week because of his inflammatory postings.

Rapper The Game, a West collaborator, seemed to confirm West’s ban Friday by posting about it to Instagram. However, he blamed “disrespect” to Black entertainers as the reason for West no longer performing.

“Time & time again they show us that they only want to STEAL the culture, not allow you to ever be their equals. In a more than obvious move for reasons of minuscule actions…. The Grammys have at the last minute decided to pull (Kanye West) from performing on the show as if we didn’t know it was coming. Could be because (Trevor Noah) is hosting and there was a conversation held amongst his team & the academy that led to the decision or because Ye’s account was suspended just days ago for reasons unknown, especially in a world where all the negativities of the world can be found on the same app with no repercussions or suspensions…. We’ll just say it’s all of the above & a continuous disrespect for us & all that we have brought to the table in entertainment, media & sports over the last 100 years especially.”

CBS and West’s representative were contacted by Deadline for comment, but have not yet responded.

[loftybike]

^^^Snort!
The Game really tried something here. But no, it's not cultural oppression and the reasons are certainly known.
It's simply because Ye is an unpredictable unhinged asshole and everyone knows it.

[no1novice]

Also Trevor Noah has said some very kind things about Kanye - even after his post.

[ravenna]

^Yes, I feel that Trevor has been compassionate, and if he did have something to do with cancelling Kanye's performance, it was NOT out of spite.