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Post by no1novice on Nov 3, 2023 18:55:35 GMT
Unfortunately, it's a real dog. Yesterday, she posted feeding the dog milk from a bottle. Hopefully, it was replacement milk or goat's milk and not cow's milk. It was a little bizarre to see, like she's replacing a longing for a child with the puppy. Ugh. This makes me sick. If the puppy should be nursing, then it's too young to separate from it's mother. I feel so sorry for that poor dog, because once it's not a puppy anymore, she will probably ignore it. Same. I think that 8 weeks is too young (it's the legal minimum in the UK) and it does psychological damage to take them away too soon. Random fact. Puppies recognise the smell of their mum for TWO years after being separated. Tells you something in my mind. |
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Post by MsDark on Nov 3, 2023 23:45:06 GMT
especially if you're using a real tree. if you put it up a month before it will be all dry and bald by christmas. That reminds me of a crazy story out here about 10 years ago. An older couple in Annapolis had a mansion that looked like a freaking castle - with towers and everything. One night, night, while they had 3 grandchildren (but not their kids) sleeping over, the place caught fire and just burned to the ground, killing everyone. That's when I found out the place was made out of wood (that looked like stone) instead of actual stone. And it turned out the cause was a really dry Xmas tree that had caught fire from the lights still on it. Serious question - does anyone have a psychological insight as to her continued nakedness to the entire world? Would her meds make her feel hyper sexual? I don't know what to call it. Wake up at some point in the day, don't get dressed and get out the camera? I wonder if she's nude around the staff? I wish more of the world would catch whatever that particular quirk of hers is. I think as a society, we've pulled back from fun alfresco activities, and become more prudish. I whole-heartedly agree with this. |
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Post by sputnik on Nov 4, 2023 0:14:03 GMT
Serious question - does anyone have a psychological insight as to her continued nakedness to the entire world? Would her meds make her feel hyper sexual? I don't know what to call it. Wake up at some point in the day, don't get dressed and get out the camera? I wonder if she's nude around the staff? Maybe she’s just naturally an exhibitionist and there’s nothing pathological about it? She’s an entertainer, she’s been showing off her body and dancing half naked for audiences her whole life and obviously enjoys it, like Cher and Madonna and lots of others. And wants to keep doing it on social media now that she’s not on stage anymore. i’m the complete opposite and hate public attention and I don’t get it but judging by the amount of thirst traps on social media, she’s hardly alone. And it’s pretty harmless. |
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Post by czb on Nov 4, 2023 1:18:04 GMT
Ugh. This makes me sick. If the puppy should be nursing, then it's too young to separate from it's mother. I feel so sorry for that poor dog, because once it's not a puppy anymore, she will probably ignore it. Same. I think that 8 weeks is too young (it's the legal minimum in the UK) and it does psychological damage to take them away too soon. Random fact. Puppies recognise the smell of their mum for TWO years after being separated. Tells you something in my mind. agree that 8 weeks is too young. but our previous dog was from a high kill rate pound (not shelter). we adopted her at 3 weeks, if we hadn't, she would've been put down. she ended up being an amazing dog. i still miss her. |
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Post by no1novice on Nov 4, 2023 13:53:59 GMT
Same. I think that 8 weeks is too young (it's the legal minimum in the UK) and it does psychological damage to take them away too soon. Random fact. Puppies recognise the smell of their mum for TWO years after being separated. Tells you something in my mind. agree that 8 weeks is too young. but our previous dog was from a high kill rate pound (not shelter). we adopted her at 3 weeks, if we hadn't, she would've been put down. she ended up being an amazing dog. i still miss her. Being with you was the best option for her ❤️ Organised crime gangs in Europe trade in puppies now as it's more profitable than other things. Vets have got really good at telling if the puppy is less than 8-10 weeks old. |
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Post by holly on Nov 5, 2023 18:50:59 GMT
Same. I think that 8 weeks is too young (it's the legal minimum in the UK) and it does psychological damage to take them away too soon. Random fact. Puppies recognise the smell of their mum for TWO years after being separated. Tells you something in my mind. agree that 8 weeks is too young. but our previous dog was from a high kill rate pound (not shelter). we adopted her at 3 weeks, if we hadn't, she would've been put down. she ended up being an amazing dog. i still miss her. that's a totally different situation, & you know Britters didn't get a pound puppy. |
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Post by czb on Nov 5, 2023 19:03:04 GMT
^^^ agree - i was just commenting on the fact that you can adopt a super young puppy and it will still be ok.
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Post by holly on Nov 5, 2023 19:16:15 GMT
^^^ agree - i was just commenting on the fact that you can adopt a super young puppy and it will still be ok. I think it would be OK only if they weren't with their mother. If the mother is there, then I feel like the responsible thing would be for the pound to keep the puppies with the mother until a minimum of 10 weeks. Not sure if a pound would do this though. I know a rescue organization would though. May even keep the puppies till 12 weeks, which is really the youngest puppies should be when the leave the mother, but of course it doesn't always happen that way. |
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Post by czb on Nov 5, 2023 20:30:50 GMT
the place where we adopted that puppy was a high-kill shelter. not only was the mom not there, but they just don't have enough money to keep dogs more than a few days. her litter was abandoned behind a walmart and picked up by the shelter. i saw the post for the litter of 7 and there were only 3 when we got there (it was a 4 hour drive) a few days later. if the remaining pups were not picked up, then they were killed.
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Post by holly on Nov 5, 2023 21:39:36 GMT
the place where we adopted that puppy was a high-kill shelter. not only was the mom not there, but they just don't have enough money to keep dogs more than a few days. her litter was abandoned behind a walmart and picked up by the shelter. i saw the post for the litter of 7 and there were only 3 when we got there (it was a 4 hour drive) a few days later. if the remaining pups were not picked up, then they were killed. That breaks my heart. I'm glad you were able to save at least one sweet furbaby. I understand that they don't have the funds to keep dogs more than a few days, I just wish that more people would adopt from shelters instead of buying. But too many people either want a puppy, or say they don't want to adopt from a shelter because they don't know the dog's temperament, which I find to be ridiculous, because most of the time these dogs aren't there because they are "bad dogs." More like they had bad owners. Like the type of assholes who get rid of their dog or cat because they have a baby now. Ugh! Or how about all the stories out there of people who adopted a dog during covid & now say they "don't have time" for a dog now. Really assholes? So dumping your dog at the pound is better than the dog being at home all day while you're at work (like everyone else who works)? Such a sorry-ass excuse. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I did something like that! But I guess that's why I can't understand people who think like that or make lame ass excuses. I've actually ended friendships over this type of thing. None of them were anybody I was close to, mainly acquaintances. But it stopped me dead in my tracks from even wanting to get to know them better. I distanced & lost any type of respect I may have had for them. One couple got rid of their senior cat because the wife wanted to get a dog. WTF? Fuck that bitch, & her husband for going along with it. Know another couple who got rid of their dog (a cute little shi-tzu that I would've gladly taken if I could, but I already have 2 dogs & really can't afford the cost to take care of another dog. But they got rid of her (8 y/o dog) because they were moving. That's it, they were just moving. They did find her a home, she wasn't dumped, but you don't get rid of your dog just because you're moving 5 hours away into a new house that you had built. Soured me on them as well. I was like "Don't take care! Hope to see you never!" (stole that from TJ Lavin on The Challenge on MTV. He's said it before when people quit. I love it) I have a friend who adopted a senior shi-tzu mix. The dog's owner was elderly & passed away. I thought it was shitty that the family of the man didn't at least try to place the dog, even with a rescue. Instead, right to the pound.  But he's spoiled rotten now! That dog has no idea how good he's got it  |
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Post by czb on Nov 5, 2023 23:52:47 GMT
ugh. i totally get what you were saying.
once when my kids were little, i took them on a playdate with a mom i didn't know so well. she asked me how i could handle twins + an active dog, i told her it was a commitment but i was happy to do it. she told me about how she 'had' to get rid of her dog because she couldn't handle it when she had a kid. i was trying not to judge and i asked her questions about it. every answer she gave me was so lame, and i guess my annoyance and judginess showed through.
there is a rescue here that specifically focuses on placing elder dogs and ones with special needs. a lot of the elder dogs come because their elderly owner died.
i will say that when we drove north to pick up with puppy from the high kill rate shelter, we did meet with some other dogs first. we wanted to see which one would be the best fit for us. i wish i could've taken more than the one we picked. there was one dog i thought was great, but the volunteer shook her head, she said the dog would 'flip' moods suddenly and would be unpredictable around young kids (we didn't have kids yet but thought we would). i really appreciated that the volunteers would spend time with the dogs and learn their temperment so they could help place them in the right home.
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Post by sputnik on Nov 6, 2023 0:11:49 GMT
^^^
i've had similar reactions, and judged people for the same thing because i just can't fathom ever, ever getting rid of a pet except for the most extreme circumstances, and having a kid certainly wouldn't be one of them.
and then i try to remind myself that if someone can be so cavalier about giving up a pet they probably don't love animals all that much and it's probably better they don't have any at all. and just hope that whoever adopted the animal they got rid of will give it all the love it deserves.
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Post by no1novice on Nov 6, 2023 13:48:02 GMT
My ex once asked me who I would save first in a fire - him or the dog.
It was a no brainer.
When I left the dog got in my car & came with me. It was a struggle at times, working long hours etc but we made it work.
Haven't heard from the ex in y-e-a-r-s. Still miss my dog after she passed away nearly 2 years ago now.
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Post by czb on Nov 6, 2023 15:50:11 GMT
dogs give us so much, they deserve the very best.
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Post by charmedhour on Nov 6, 2023 17:04:11 GMT
Serious question - does anyone have a psychological insight as to her continued nakedness to the entire world? Would her meds make her feel hyper sexual? I don't know what to call it. Wake up at some point in the day, don't get dressed and get out the camera? I wonder if she's nude around the staff? Hypersexuality, including exhibitiosim is often seen in mental illness when unmedicated or not properly medicated. It's most common in Bipolar Disorder, when cycling through the mania phase. Re: Rehoming dogs for no "good" reason Ugh, I hate people. We added a new Bull Terrier puppy 2 months ago, bringing our total dogs to 4. Maxine (BT) is 14, Molly (BT) is a little over 2, Murphy (mini Bernedoodle) is 10 months and Marley is 7 months (new guy). Well, Molly has a strong distaste for Marley from day one. She's fine as long as he leaves her alone but he's a 7 month old Bull Terrier- it's not in his makeup to not be annoying right now. We could give either one of them back to their breeder with no questions asked. We will not do that, both are members of our family. So what are we doing? We're working on aversion training for Molly- basically ignore him and for Marley we're working on "just leave her alone- no barking, no jumping on her, no trying to play" no puppy stupidity basically. It hasn't gone perfectly but each day both are getting better with their training. Molly has reached the point where she will ignore him until she's had enough and one of 2 things happen- she comes to me for "protection" or she charges at him and last minute veers away. Before that, she was growling, charging and a few times nipping. Marley for his part, is learning Murphy is his friend and let's leave Molly be most of the time. Molly will play on her terms and at night, they snuggle in bed together now. We'll get there. They don't have to be friends but they have to co-exist for the next 8-12 years. |
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But he's spoiled rotten now! That dog has no idea how good he's got it 