Ron DeSantis COYOTES 2 planes to Martha’s Vineyard

[trixie]

Fox News said DeSantis punked everybody making them think more migrants were headed to Delaware. But there was a flight, rerouted to NJ with no migrants on board? So was this a 'punk' or DeSantis deciding at the last minute that he better check to see what legal trouble he's in? And how much did Florida pay for that empty plane to NJ?

[no1novice]

Sept 22, 2022 1:43:04 GMT trixie said:

Fox News said DeSantis punked everybody making them think more migrants were headed to Delaware. But there was a flight, rerouted to NJ with no migrants on board? So was this a 'punk' or DeSantis deciding at the last minute that he better check to see what legal trouble he's in? And how much did Florida pay for that empty plane to NJ?

Is has a $12m fund for the migrates.

I can't remember where I saw it

[ikmccall]

Hundreds of migrants have been bussed to Maryland since June-

[no1novice]

Sept 22, 2022 1:43:04 GMT trixie said:

Fox News said DeSantis punked everybody making them think more migrants were headed to Delaware. But there was a flight, rerouted to NJ with no migrants on board? So was this a 'punk' or DeSantis deciding at the last minute that he better check to see what legal trouble he's in? And how much did Florida pay for that empty plane to NJ?

Got it.

(CNN)The budget language that appropriated the money for Florida's migrant relocation program would not permit two flights this week, for which Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has claimed credit, or the relocation of some of the migrants recruited for them, CNN has learned.
Two planes carrying about 50 migrants arrived at Martha's Vineyard in Massachusetts earlier this week. The DeSantis' administration had secured $12 million in the state budget to pay for migrant relocation, and the governor had repeatedly threatened to use the money to send them to liberal strongholds.
DeSantis said he arranged for the two flights which landed in Massachusetts, but the migrants had actually been in Texas.
Florida's migrant relocation program, according to the budget language which DeSantis signed into law, says the program should move migrants who are "unlawfully present" in the United States "from this state," meaning the flights from Texas to Massachusetts would not have been covered by the budget, language and anyone relocated as part of the program was not legally allowed to be in the US.
DeSantis vows Florida will transport more migrants from border to other states
DeSantis vows Florida will transport more migrants from border to other states
Martha Vineyard's airport director Geoffrey Freeman said Wednesday's flights originated in San Antonio, Texas.
And CNN spoke with more than a dozen migrants on the flights, who also affirmed they were transported from San Antonio, not Florida. They also said they were Venezuelan citizens seeking asylum and applying for refugee status, and showed CNN court papers for future asylum determination proceedings.
Federal law, cited in the Florida budget language, dictates those migrants who have future asylum determination proceedings are lawfully present in the US until a federal judge makes a determination otherwise.
As questions and criticism swirl as to why Florida's governor used state funds to transport migrants from Texas to Massachusetts, DeSantis said the flights were organized for people who were "trying to come to Florida and then offering them free transportation to sanctuary jurisdictions."
The migrants sent to Martha's Vineyard have been voluntarily taken to a military base for support, officials say
The migrants sent to Martha's Vineyard have been voluntarily taken to a military base for support, officials say

None of the migrants CNN spoke to said they had any desire or plans to travel to Florida.
Although flight data from FlightRadar 24 and FlightAware did show the two planes carrying the migrants making a quick stop in Crestview, Florida, public records obtained by CNN showed the plane was refueled at the airport.
Taryn Fenske, a spokesperson for the governor, sent CNN a statement saying the relocation program aims to stop human smugglers and traffics "found within the state" in addition to preventing migrants, "at the southern border from entering Florida."
Fenske reiterated the state would continue the relocation program.

DeSantis also said in a news conference Friday he intended to use "every penny" of the $12 million his state budgeted to relocate migrants and set the expectation for buses and "likely more" flights full of migrants paid for by Florida.
He defended using taxpayers dollars to send the migrants to Massachusetts because he said many people who cross the border end up in Florida, adding there are also people working for his state who are in Texas to "profile" individuals who are likely headed to Florida.

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[lindsaywhit]

Sept 21, 2022 22:11:57 GMT chalet said:

This is like a disaster relief food drop but with humans beings.

I was thinking about this reaching the Supreme Court at this stage, but they'll be no help these days.

My thought process exactly.

I'm very uneducated about this whole issue, but it doesn't seem crazy to me that the rest of the US shares in providing aid and services to migrants. Honestly, I thought this was already going on?

My parents were immigrants from Holland after the war, and they had to be sponsored by relatives. My father started the process to come to the US a soon as he could after the war ended. I guess he was approved relatively quickly because he did have 2nd generation relatives already established in Minnesota and Michigan, and he had been in the Dutch Underground during the war. (Just a side note: things were pretty grim in the Netherlands even after the war - my mother cried when she saw the leftovers that went to the dogs and pigs on the farm in Minnesota because she wished her 7 younger siblings could eat so well. That story was a stark lesson and reminder to me of how unfathomable the lives of millions of people around the globe really are, and why people will risk their lives to migrate illegally.)

My husband's mother and her family came from Hungary & Czechoslovakia. His grandmother survived Auschwitz, but most of their extended family did not. I was shocked to learn of all the times the US rejected Jewish appeals for aid and sanctuary. They forced ships to return to Nazi occupied territories and to almost certain death. And the US knew. They knew what was going on in the camps.  They just didn't share that knowledge with the world until the war was ending. (I do understand that tough choices had to be made, but it's hard when you are talking to someone whose little sister didn't make it through the war after their ship was returned - I think to Belgium.)

Sput, thank you for your summation because it so clearly highlighted just a little of why this issue is so difficult and so emotionally charged.