The Royal Mega Thread, Part II

[mostroop]

Yup. Trashy as Kardashians, they just pay/bully people to keep it quiet.

[MsDark]

Pass the popcorn and chairs folks.

[HWBL]

Jan 5, 2023 1:09:17 GMT Sarzy said:

In his highly anticipated autobiography, Spare, Prince Harry recounts what he says was a physical attack by his brother, William, now Prince of Wales, as their relationship fell apart over the younger prince’s marriage to the actor Meghan Markle.

Describing a confrontation at his London home in 2019, Harry says William called Meghan “difficult”, “rude” and “abrasive”, which Harry calls a “parrot[ing of] the press narrative” about his American wife.

The confrontation escalated, Harry writes, until William “grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and … knocked me to the floor”.

The extraordinary scene, which Harry says resulted in visible injury to his back, is one of many in Spare, which will be published worldwide next week and is likely to spark a serious furore for the British royal family.

Amid stringent pre-launch security around the book, the Guardian obtained a copy.

The book’s title comes from an old saying in royal and aristocratic circles: that a first son is an heir to titles, power and fortune, and a second is therefore a spare, should anything happen to the first-born.

Spare is a remarkable volume, in which the altercation between the two princes forms a startling passage.

Harry writes that William wanted to talk about “the whole rolling catastrophe” of their relationship and struggles with the press. But when William arrived at Nottingham Cottage – where Harry was then living, in the grounds of Kensington Palace and known as “Nott Cott” – he was, Harry says, already “piping hot”.

After William complained about Meghan, Harry writes, Harry told him he was repeating the press narrative and that he expected better. But William, Harry says, was not being rational, leading to the two men shouting over each other.

Harry then accused his brother of acting like an heir, unable to understand why his younger brother was not content to be a spare.


Insults were exchanged, before William claimed he was trying to help.

Harry said: “Are you serious? Help me? Sorry – is that what you call this? Helping me?”

That comment, Harry says, angered his brother, who swore while stepping towards him. Now scared, Harry writes, he went to the kitchen, his furious brother following.

Harry writes that he gave his brother a glass of water and said: “Willy, I can’t speak to you when you’re like this.”

He writes: “He set down the water, called me another name, then came at me. It all happened so fast. So very fast. He grabbed me by the collar, ripping my necklace, and he knocked me to the floor. I landed on the dog’s bowl, which cracked under my back, the pieces cutting into me. I lay there for a moment, dazed, then got to my feet and told him to get out.”

Harry writes that William urged him to hit back, citing fights they had as children. Harry says he refused to do so. William left, Harry says, then returned “looking regretful, and apologised”.

When William left again, his brother writes, he “turned and called back: ‘You don’t need to tell Meg about this.’

“‘You mean that you attacked me?’

“‘I didn’t attack you, Harold.’”

Harry says he didn’t immediately tell his wife – but did call his therapist.

When Meghan later noticed “scrapes and bruises” on his back, and he therefore told her of the attack, Harry says she “wasn’t that surprised, and wasn’t all that angry.

“She was terribly sad.”

Harry’s resentment of being the “spare” is the unifying theme of his book, through chapters on his childhood, his schooling, his career as a royal and in the British army, his relationship with his parents and brother and his life with Meghan through courtship, wedding and marriage to their own experience of parenthood


Harry recounts an anguished meeting with Charles and William after the Windsor Castle funeral of Prince Phillip, the queen’s husband, in April 2021.

Charles, he says, stood between his warring sons, “looking up at our flushed faces”.

“Please, boys,” Harry quotes his father as saying. “Don’t make my final years a misery.”




www.theguardian.com/books/2023/jan/04/prince-harry-william-physical-attack-2019-meghan-spare-book

I'm not a fan of airing the dirty laundry, even when it is necessary. But you can already predict the shit storm Harry and Meghan will receive after this revelation and that is the opposite of what they are trying to achieve. And as far as Charles' supposed quote is concerned: really, Chuck? It is all about you? STFU, you entitled prick!

[Sarzy]

I think a lot of the Royals are pretty screwed up/messy. I can totally believe William has a temper. Why does Harry even have to drag William (and Kate) into the nazi costume scandal though? Seems petty. The costume was Harry's idea.

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Prince Harry sensationally puts some of the blame for his Nazi uniform scandal on his brother, Prince William, and his sister-in-law, Kate Middleton, in his new memoir, sources tell Page Six.
In one segment of the book, obtained by Page Six, Harry writes about choosing the outfit, revealing that it was a toss-up between two costumes: a pilot uniform or a Nazi uniform.

“I phoned Willy and Kate, asked what they thought. Nazi uniform, they said,” Harry writes, adding that when he went home and tried it on for them. “They both howled. Worse than Willy’s leotard outfit! Way more ridiculous! Which, again, was the point.”

Although the Duke of Sussex has called the Nazi incident “one of the biggest mistakes in my life,” one senior publishing source who has read Harry’s “Spare” told us, “It’s strange as you would think that Harry would take ownership of this and just move on and not drag his brother into it, but he makes it clear that he feels strongly about William’s role in the scandal.”

pagesix.com/2023/01/04/prince-harry-claims-william-and-kate-middleton-told-him-to-buy-nazi-costume/amp/

[loftybike]

I think that a father who has certainly tried his best, but has not supported his sons enough and obviously has no idea how to end the feud between them, can be sad and remind them of his mortality.

Charles is traumatized for life from his own upbringing, I'm pretty sure he pampered William to make up for the restrictions of William's future position and created a selfish, entitled asshat.

Actually I think that Charles feels closer to Harry, because they share the same underlying sensiblity that William lacks, but Charles can't side with the spare, that's just not possible.

[loftybike]

Jan 5, 2023 10:37:43 GMT Sarzy said:

I think they are all pretty screwed up/messy. I can totally believe William has a temper. Why does he even have to drag William (and Kate) into the nazi costume scandal though? Seems petty. The costume was Harry's idea.


Prince Harry sensationally puts some of the blame for his Nazi uniform scandal on his brother, Prince William, and his sister-in-law, Kate Middleton, in his new memoir, sources tell Page Six.
In one segment of the book, obtained by Page Six, Harry writes about choosing the outfit, revealing that it was a toss-up between two costumes: a pilot uniform or a Nazi uniform.

“I phoned Willy and Kate, asked what they thought. Nazi uniform, they said,” Harry writes, adding that when he went home and tried it on for them. “They both howled. Worse than Willy’s leotard outfit! Way more ridiculous! Which, again, was the point.”

Hahaha, he'll forever try to blame everyone around for his own completely inappropriate, stupid and unacceptable decision to wear this uniform. He's a good guy, he loves his wife and he tries to make things right, but the Nazi uniform puts all of that into perspective. He came a long way, but still, that one haunts him and rightfully so, it's what he deserves for being an asshole of such epic proportions, even if it was just once.

[Sarzy]

^ Yep, the sensible thing would have been to just apologise, accept responsibility and leave it at that. He used racist slurs too, I wonder if he'll blame anyone else for that.

[MsDark]

The larger point being made here that will be lost on a chunk of folks aghast by everything Harry since Meghan came on board is that both these two were up to entitled asshat shenanigans when they were growing up and going through school, but Harry was the fall guy and William was protected and anything controversial at all about William right down to his personality (temper) is downplayed or kept quiet entirely. And the palace does have a hand in that, whether they want to admit to it or not.

This is pretty much the role he was born into. Would it have been better had the result been another Andy for this generation?

If they can control the narrative to this extent (where the William we know is pretty much relegated to what they want us to know) they could have kept the stuff from getting out of hand about Meghan.  Especially the racist crap.  There should have been a zero tolerance policy on any of that at the very minimum. 

If they were smarter, they'd have realized this would have helped them too in the long run.  But they were too pissy about these two being popular.  Now they got a mess. 

I'm personally ready for it with my popcorn.  

[Sarzy]

Prince Harry will reveal the details of a sensational row between Meghan and Kate in his new book, the Mail has learned.

During the run up to the Sussexes' wedding in May 2018, Harry writes that Meghan told Kate that she must have 'baby brain because of her hormones'.

Kate, who gave birth to her third child, Prince Louis, a month before Meghan and Harry's wedding, was understandably upset by the accusation.

But Meghan also became offended because she was reprimanded for her comments.

A well-placed source said: 'In the book Harry says that there was a discussion about the timing of the wedding rehearsal and the flower girl dresses and Kate was very upset.

'Meghan said that Kate must have ''baby brain'' because of her hormones.

'It caused a huge row because Meghan was told that she wasn't close enough to her sister-in-law to discuss her hormones and it wasn't the way people spoke to each other within the Royal Family.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11602431/Meghan-offended-reprimanded-insulting-Kate.html

[louiswinthorpe111]

^^This whole thing is stupid. The BRF hasn't learned anything or progressed as human beings or an institution in the past 25 years. Most people, and corporations for that fact, learn from their mistakes and make changes. Not this lot.

[Sarzy]

Harry killed 25 people in Afghanistan

In Spare, the duke also said that he killed 25 people while serving in Afghanistan.

Writing about his two tours of duty, the Prince, who spent 10 years in the Army, said: "So my number: twenty-five. It was not something that filled me with satisfaction, but I was not ashamed either. Naturally, I would have preferred not to have that figure on my military resume, or in my head, but I would also have preferred to live in a world without the Taliban, a world without war."


Harry admits he took cocaine

In the book, he also admitted that he took cocaine, spoke about how he lost his virginity and claimed his brother physically attacked him during a row over his marriage to Meghan Markle.

Speaking about using cocaine, Prince Harry said "it wasn't very fun, and it didn't make me feel especially happy".

Harry described losing his virginity as "a humiliating episode with an older lady".

He said it was "with an older lady, who loved horses very much and treated me like a young stallion".

The excerpt read: "'I mounted her quickly, after which she spanked my ass and held me back… one of my mistakes was letting it happen in a field, just behind a busy pub. No doubt someone had seen us'."



The bit about his virginity sounds like a spoof.

news.sky.com/story/prince-harry-asked-his-father-not-to-marry-camilla-as-moment-he-was-told-about-his-mothers-car-accident-revealed-in-book-12780602

[❤️ NickiDrea ❤️]

Jan 5, 2023 10:37:43 GMT Sarzy said:

I think a lot of the Royals are pretty screwed up/messy. I can totally believe William has a temper. Why does Harry even have to drag William (and Kate) into the nazi costume scandal though? Seems petty. The costume was Harry's idea.

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Prince Harry sensationally puts some of the blame for his Nazi uniform scandal on his brother, Prince William, and his sister-in-law, Kate Middleton, in his new memoir, sources tell Page Six.
In one segment of the book, obtained by Page Six, Harry writes about choosing the outfit, revealing that it was a toss-up between two costumes: a pilot uniform or a Nazi uniform.

“I phoned Willy and Kate, asked what they thought. Nazi uniform, they said,” Harry writes, adding that when he went home and tried it on for them. “They both howled. Worse than Willy’s leotard outfit! Way more ridiculous! Which, again, was the point.”

Although the Duke of Sussex has called the Nazi incident “one of the biggest mistakes in my life,” one senior publishing source who has read Harry’s “Spare” told us, “It’s strange as you would think that Harry would take ownership of this and just move on and not drag his brother into it, but he makes it clear that he feels strongly about William’s role in the scandal.”

pagesix.com/2023/01/04/prince-harry-claims-william-and-kate-middleton-told-him-to-buy-nazi-costume/amp/

It’s been known for years that Will encouraged Harry to wear the costume and then let him take the fall when the media reamed him out for it. They stopped talking for months after that. Harry was old enough to know better but Will shouldn’t have encouraged it either. And it wasn’t cool to tell him to wear it and then say nothing when the media descended. Will also threw racist-themed parties and got away with that too.

But this is a family with literal Nazis in it and a racist grandpa that everyone just seemed to think was so hilarious so we shouldn’t be surprised at ANY of this.

[loftybike]

Phhhh, I'm currently sick and tired of all of the british RF, it's too much drama, too much oversharing. I'm all for gossip, but it's not that I must know intimate details and I already see that this book will dominate the gossip everywhere for months while I'm all "why must I know this". I love them and I love mess, but this is too much already.

[greysfang]

I think Harry putting this all out there of what the spare goes through will benefit Charlotte and Louis in the future. People won’t be so quick to dogpile them once they realize the nature of the firm’s tactics.

[czb]

but i think a lot of people don't believe it. not sure why.