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Post by czb on Dec 10, 2022 20:44:06 GMT
i don't think she did jail time. it's one of the myths that the haters claim:
1. meghan was married twice before
2. she is infertile
3. had a surrogate
4. father got her the acting gigs (for the record, the only thing i know that he did was get his brother in SA to get her the internship)
5. was a yacht girl
6. really has a boner for william but he was too smart for her so she settled for harry
7. not so smart since she only went to northwestern and not an Ivy.
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Post by no1novice on Dec 10, 2022 22:22:22 GMT
I'm not gonna lie, I thought Harry was pretty cute in this and definitely charming. And obviously they're in love. And yes I do think this bothered Kate and disgusted or at least annoyed William. I think if Bill and Cathy ever had anything even close to this it was for about two weeks when they first started dating. At this age/stage they probably think it very immature and look down their noses. Their relationship is a business/brand now. But I don't find it a stretch to assume that most women stuck in a situation like Kate's would probably secretly be at least a little jealous. Double post because the board keeps eating my reply to MsDark. Kate is starting to seem, for want of a better word, brittle. She wears the clothes well, she shakes hands with the plebs with a nicely fixed grin and she follows behind her remarkably stiff and buttoned up husband like a finely tuned Stepford Wifebot, but it's rare for there to be anything more than a flash of genuine warmth or pleasure from her. She's made her bed and she's determined to lie in it, no matter what the cost to herself, but I can't help but wonder if there's a tiny spark of an ordinary, lively woman left in there who is screaming and rattling at the bars of the cage she chose for herself. Brittle! That's a good word!  |
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Post by MsDark on Dec 11, 2022 1:29:39 GMT
They're saying that (about the mom in jail thing) because her mom is black. And they're racist. But then quick to deny their hate has anything to do with racism.  Sure, Jan. Sure. |
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Post by ❤️ NickiDrea ❤️ on Dec 11, 2022 15:52:13 GMT
They're saying that (about the mom in jail thing) because her mom is black. And they're racist. But then quick to deny their hate has anything to do with racism. Sure, Jan. Sure. This. |
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Post by loftybike on Dec 11, 2022 16:03:33 GMT
British Twitter is something else. The amount of racism and hate spilled there is absolutely terrifying.
From what they post, you'd think that Meghan is responsible for every single thing that went wrong with Britain since she first set foot on that island.
I'm awaiting her being the reason for the fucked up decision to do Brexit any minute now.
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Post by Sarzy on Dec 11, 2022 16:06:58 GMT
daphodil : that's what i assumed as well. naive and maybe with blinders on? the thing that surprised me is when they said that growing up, meghan was with her mom during the week and her dad on the weekends. because all the meg-haters have been claiming that her dad had her 100% of the time. most likely because mom was in prison. of which i have not seen evidence. I can't help but think that if Doria had actually done several years in prison then Samantha would have been slinging that mud far and wide to any tabloid with an expense account. That she hasn't suggests that no such record exists and Samantha (just about) has enough sense not to go there and find herself sued into oblivion. Pretty sure the Daily Mail would have found out about it if she had done jail time, even if Samantha didn't blab. |
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Post by sputnik on Dec 11, 2022 17:21:24 GMT
They're saying that (about the mom in jail thing) because her mom is black. And they're racist. But then quick to deny their hate has anything to do with racism. Sure, Jan. Sure. the stuff about her mom having been in jail is something else. this is something that's very easily verifiable and would be in the public record and it's not, but that still doesn't stop the rumours which is proof in and of itself that they're racially motivated. my mom leaves tonight so i'll have time to start watching. |
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Post by constancespry on Dec 11, 2022 17:39:47 GMT
LOL, Piers Morgan got rejected and can't get over it. He's such a cry baby, obviously he's still unaware of the fact that he makes himself a joke in all of this. Apparently people have been handing Morgan's arse to him on twitter saying just that. His response was to say that all the 'trolls' suggesting that he was bitter because Meghan rejected him had reminded him that he hadn't wished his wife Happy Birthday for the day before. He then posted a montage of modelling pictures of his wife where she's doing some reveal-but-conceal pictures. This did not have the effect he was hoping for as many people then started taking the piss out of him for making a post about his wife's birthday about Meghan and for posting pictures of his wife that are over 20 years old and predate their relationship to make it seem like he was married to a hot young thing. A few mischievous scamps also pointed out that he was also still married to his first wife when he started an affair with his second wife. ^^^Yeah, that's what I thought as well. I remember being shocked to find out QEII's kids and grandkids had to curtsy to her in private - and TRIPLE shocked to find out that cousins had to curtsy to each other - with the bitch fests of "blood princess" vs. just married into it. Damn, it must crank Andy when he has to curtsy to Camilla - and to the new Princess of Wales. See, I can laugh from a distance, but pretty sure that oppressive formality would be the death knell for me. It's a lot. eta: Wait. Do they all have to bow to George??? Seriously, does anyone know? Because that would be a sharp "Oh, hell no!" from me. It's all a load of ridiculously outdated bollocks that keeps being used to maintain a equally ridiculous and outdated hierarchy within the family itself (and it's rumoured to be even worse and quite vicious among the staff of the various households). Personally I'd be damned before I'd curtsy to any of them, and I'm not especially anti-Monarchy in the grand scheme of things Piers Morgan has a wife?! Sincere sympathy to her. |
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Post by loftybike on Dec 11, 2022 19:25:48 GMT
^^^THIS! I never knew and I liked that.
Edit: Oh f**ing hell, I jst googled him and he's acutally younger than me. That's bizarre, I thought he was in his 70s, based on his crusted old worldview.
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Post by kittylady on Dec 12, 2022 20:49:35 GMT
^^^THIS! I never knew and I liked that.
Edit: Oh f**ing hell, I jst googled him and he's acutally younger than me. That's bizarre, I thought he was in his 70s, based on his crusted old worldview.
Maybe it's some reverse Dorian Grey thing and somewhere in his attic there's a picture of a young and handsome Piers. |
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Post by Sarzy on Dec 12, 2022 22:00:39 GMT
Talking of Piers' wife she has written about Harry and Meghan too Unapologetically selfish, Harry and Meghan are a product of the American obsession with therapyBehind the scenes,” reveals Meghan in episode three of Keeping Up With The Sussexes, “I was just turtling.” Like so many of the brain burps she and Harry have felt duty bound to share in their Netflix whineumentary, this one needed to be translated. A quick Google search told me that “turtling” is a psychological term, popular in the US, used to describe a method of self-preservation whereby we retreat into our shells when the misery, trauma and pressures of life become too much to bear. According to therapists, “turtling has been found to be effective for both children and adults.” You see once safely back inside your shell it’s possible to work through the essential “turtle method” steps: recognising that you feel angry (about scarring experiences such as Her Majesty getting first dibs on which colours to wear for royal events) and accepting that you have a right to that anger (I mean, who made her Queen?). Only then is it possible to “come up with solutions.” For Harry and Meghan the solution was obvious: airing every grievance, however minute, and blaming anyone but themselves for their multi-million-dollar, duty free ‘predicament’ – one which, like everything else in the documentary, is described in bafflingly contradictory terms, with Prince Harry mournfully asking “How did we get here?” just minutes after his triumphant: “Look at how far we’ve come!” So all those rhetoricals being asked by commentators around the world since Netflix dropped the first three episodes of the show last Thursday – “How can he do this to his own father and brother?”, “How could they disrespect the late Queen in this way?”, “How can they not be ashamed by the sheer tackiness of their behaviour?” – are missing the point. This is not about Harry’s loyalty to his country or family. These two crusaders can’t get bogged down with other people’s feelings, as today’s new trailer, in which Harry takes aim at Prince William, makes clear: “They were happy to lie to protect my brother, but they were never willing to tell the truth to protect us.” No, this is about Meghan and Harry’s own mental health journey, about us being invited to witness six hours of on-screen therapy – after the many hours they’ve clearly both spent “working on themselves” in private. Having spent over a decade in California, a place that sees therapy as the answer to every ill, and “trauma”, as the New Yorker put it so beautifully in a piece on the rise of therapy-speak last year, “around every corner… like the unwanted prize at the bottom of a cereal box”, I can spot a victim of excessive “shrinkage” a mile away. God knows I didn’t need Adele to admit (only yesterday) that she was having “five therapy sessions a day” during her divorce. That much is obvious. There’s an unapologetic selfishness, for one thing, after all those expensive hours on the couch, being told “you do you” – something the Sussexes have taken with them back into the outside world. There’s a defiant refusal even to consider another person’s pain. And a hyperbolic language that elevates every uncomfortable experience to a gaping, open wound. “I wasn’t being thrown to the wolves,” says Meghan in the new clip. “I was being fed to the wolves.” There is no impetus to heal, of course. The wound has to remain open, ideally weeping, and the hurt revisited, time and time again, if you’re to be assured lifelong victim status. And the couple desperately need that status – certainly in the absence of a royal title – to make money and remain relevant. Hence their fluency in therapese. Against the sweeping Downton Abbey-esque score that accompanies their confessionals, the couple talk about the “layers” of difficulty within their mythical love story and how it wasn’t “a particularly healthy way to start a relationship.” There are tortured bleatings about “self-worth”, about Meghan’s inability to “authentically be myself”, when “so much of my self-identification was trying to figure out where I fit in.” About Harry being seen as “part of the problem rather than part of the solution.” On Thursday, he will up his game: there was “institutional gaslighting”, no less. We can only hope that once Harry's autobiography is published, it will be the last we hear of the Sussexes’ tortured bleatings All of this is offset with constant reminders about their loftier purpose. Once a problem has been “identified within yourself,” says Harry, “you then need to make it right. It’s education. It's awareness. And it's a constant work in progress for everybody, including me, you know.” The humility’s a nice – if fraudulent – touch, but the message remains the same: when you have the moral high ground, nothing and nobody is off limits. If the (deeply private) wedding party images released at the weekend to promote the final three hours of Keeping Up With The Sussexes are anything to go by, there will be a brief respite from the whining in episode four – just long enough for us to enjoy their wedding night – before we’re back to the evil “theys” and the “us against the world” narrative Harry and Meghan have laid out from the start. And I wonder what therapists might caution a terminally narcissistic couple who have alienated family, friends and country, played all their cards, and been left dependent on each other? I’m guessing there might be concerns as to how “healthy” that relationship is, and how easy it might be for these two to turn on each other if things don’t play out as expected. Because as Meghan says herself: “We had to stay connected. We wouldn't have survived it if we weren’t.” I hope for their sake that they do. But once their six hours are up and Harry’s autobiography, Spare, is published in just under a month’s time, the rest of us could do with these two retreating into their shells for good. www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2022/12/12/unapologetically-selfish-harry-meghan-product-american-obsession/ |
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Post by kittylady on Dec 13, 2022 0:24:37 GMT
The thing about Harry being thrown under the media bus in order to protect William has been a point of gossipy speculation for a very long time now, probably since their late teens. Barring the monarchy collapsing or some dreadful accident occurring, William is going to be King one day and the palace machinery has worked very hard to protect his image throughout. Heaven forbid that anyone finds out that he's *gasp!* a fallible human! Harry is presented as the playboy party animal, the blunderer, the drinker, the thick one who tried drugs but William? You have to start digging to find anything to suggest that he was anything but a very sensible, very straight-laced, upright young man who never so much as smoked a cigarette or drank anything stronger than a single glass of wine over the course of an entire evening and most definitely did not dress in black leggings and leopard print as a Zulu warrior at the same Out of Africa party (that he organised for his 21st birthday) that Harry got busted for his Nazi desert uniform, and he absolutely did not laugh along with everyone else at the same party when one of his friends dressed as the Queen and did impressions of her. Oh no, never happened at all...  Except it did. And it's happened a lot and every time something even slightly negative has started floating around about William (like his alleged entanglement with Rambling Rose Hanbury) a pot boiling story has hit the press about Harry and/or Meghan. |
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Post by MsDark on Dec 13, 2022 18:46:54 GMT
So Piers has a wife? I guess it comes as no shock she's just as upset and hate-obsessed about these two as Piers. The couple that hates together gives them something in common I suppose. I wouldn't side eye Piers half as much if he hadn't been friends with Meghan at the start.
Thanks for the reminders Kitty that William has had just as many fuck ups and behaviors that could be deemed disrespectful to others (including the monarchy) as Harry. Actually, far worse than anything Harry has done just going by the ones you reminded of. But you'd never know this if you only went by what the media (in partnership with the BRF) focuses on. They know exactly what they're doing. Harry is definitely supposed to be the "bad boy" fall guy for taking the focus off Will.
The things we don't know about William are probably way worse. I just wanna know one day if I am the winner of the hypothetical money I put on him being the one who made the skin color comment.
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Post by kittylady on Dec 13, 2022 20:43:58 GMT
So Piers has a wife? I guess it comes as no shock she's just as upset and hate-obsessed about these two as Piers. The couple that hates together gives them something in common I suppose. I wouldn't side eye Piers half as much if he hadn't been friends with Meghan at the start. Thanks for the reminders Kitty that William has had just as many fuck ups and behaviors that could be deemed disrespectful to others (including the monarchy) as Harry. Actually, far worse than anything Harry has done just going by the ones you reminded of. But you'd never know this if you only went by what the media (in partnership with the BRF) focuses on. They know exactly what they're doing. Harry is definitely supposed to be the "bad boy" fall guy for taking the focus off Will. The things we don't know about William are probably way worse. I just wanna know one day if I am the winner of the hypothetical money I put on him being the one who made the skin color comment. There has been a lot of gossip that in private William has a pretty shitty temper and an entitled attitude to match, which would make sense if he's spent his whole life being coddled with his brother being made to take the fall for his shenanigans, both in public and private. As for who made the comment about skin colour, my money is on Andrew the Pervert. He's boorish and arrogant enough to have spewed it out without a second thought or fear of any consequences. |
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Post by MsDark on Dec 13, 2022 21:44:27 GMT
Yes, Andrew is a good guess too.
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