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Post by sputnik on Oct 30, 2022 14:46:57 GMT
Being a spare or an unwanted DIL while painful isn't a life sentence. Harry and Meg walked away as is their right and was, according to them, to pursue a life of happiness. Yet all they seem to do (from reading here, I don't otherwise follow them) is talk about the Firm and/or use it to promote their own fame and financial prospects. i think they're trying but the thing is the public is only interested in their gossip/drama as it relates to the royal family, and so far they have yet to offer up anything that makes them compelling on their own. except for maybe the invictus games (and even then, other than being important for the vets who participate, do you know anyone who's tuned in to watch?), all their projects that they've attempted that have nothing to do with the royal family either got scrapped or aren't as interesting to people as the oprah interview or the tell-alls. meghan's kids' book or that netflix animated project that got scrapped just aren't that interesting to people. it will be interesting to see how her podcast does in the long run and if they manage to develop projects/businesses that are unrelated to the royal family identity. |
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Post by MsDark on Oct 30, 2022 14:52:18 GMT
Growing up in the firm is a large part of who he is. How on earth is he supposed to never talk about it?
I say it's fair game. If the firm doesn't want to be spoken badly about, perhaps they need to start doing better by their own.
These two would have stayed with minimal concessions on the family's part. Even with Harry probably always secretly fantasizing about a way out. It would not have taken much to keep them.
Letting them get away will always be one of the firm's most monumentally stupid un-decisions.
The second and most ongoing one is continually allowing for others to hold these two in as low or lower regard than Andrew. If Charles is going to do anything about this, it needs to happen soon. Not in 10-20 years. This firm needs to stop moving at a snail's pace when it comes to changing shit if they want to survive in the 21st century and beyond.
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Post by cornflakegrl on Oct 30, 2022 14:59:11 GMT
Harry can talk about whatever he wants. But these aren't his memoirs, he's too young for that. It's a cash in which is his perogative.
But like Sput's post - the only way they are interesting is their claim to royalty. And the only way THAT is super interesting is if they are the heroic victims who escaped hell on earth. They know that. That's the narrative they sell.
I'm just having a hard time seeing the "hell on earth part."
Or maybe i just can't relate.
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Post by dexter7 on Oct 30, 2022 18:09:05 GMT
Being a spare or an unwanted DIL while painful isn't a life sentence. Harry and Meg walked away as is their right and was, according to them, to pursue a life of happiness. Yet all they seem to do (from reading here, I don't otherwise follow them) is talk about the Firm and/or use it to promote their own fame and financial prospects. i think they're trying but the thing is the public is only interested in their gossip/drama as it relates to the royal family, and so far they have yet to offer up anything that makes them compelling on their own. except for maybe the invictus games (and even then, other than being important for the vets who participate, do you know anyone who's tuned in to watch?), all their projects that they've attempted that have nothing to do with the royal family either got scrapped or aren't as interesting to people as the oprah interview or the tell-alls. meghan's kids' book or that netflix animated project that got scrapped just aren't that interesting to people. it will be interesting to see how her podcast does in the long run and if they manage to develop projects/businesses that are unrelated to the royal family identity. Everything spot on about what Sputnik said. And my add...they haven't found their niche. I feel like the king that abdicated a hundred years or so ago ran off with his American divorcee and stayed quiet, or gradually became irrelevant. I think Harry and Megan ran away too quickly from their royal duties, because 2 years later they still seem hungry for public attention, and the best way they could have gotten that is to have reformed the royal family (I'm not saying that would have been easy, or even something that could have been accomplished, but they could have chipped away at the obligations, stuffiness, or whatever it is they fought so hard against). It just doesn't seem like they really wanted to leave the fame of their former lives. Maybe it's just still too soon. Megan searched for fame (as an actress) and loved it. Harry was born into it and doesn't seem to care for it, yet we are talking about his book, and their joint netflix thing, so maybe he just wants to experience fame more on his terms. But their connection to the royal family is what makes people interested in them, so I think they are screwed if they want to be famous for being "themselves". |
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Post by no1novice on Oct 30, 2022 19:36:41 GMT
Harry can talk about whatever he wants. But these aren't his memoirs, he's too young for that. It's a cash in which is his perogative. But like Sput's post - the only way they are interesting is their claim to royalty. And the only way THAT is super interesting is if they are the heroic victims who escaped hell on earth. They know that. That's the narrative they sell. I'm just having a hard time seeing the "hell on earth part." Or maybe i just can't relate. I know people that went to the same school as Charles. It damaged them for life (they didn't have the same duty-first home life) I can't imagine what it did to him and then was passed down onto his own children. |
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Post by ❤️ NickiDrea ❤️ on Oct 30, 2022 20:30:13 GMT
I won’t buy this book but I am here for the fuckery.
Anyway Harry can talk about whatever the hell he wants to. This is his family and his life experience and it’s not whining to talk about it. This doesn’t sound like a pity party as much as it’s him talking about his personal experiences. It would be weird to basically spend your entire life as a backup for someone just because you were born second. The media spent many years throwing him under the bus to protect his brother’s reputation and he had no control over it, that has to have a psychological impact and also just sucks.
People will always be interested in him and there are plenty of false stories being spread so if he wants to tell his own story that’s his business. And even if he divorces Meghan people are also going to be interested in her. This is just reality.
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Post by kittylady on Oct 30, 2022 21:57:30 GMT
i think they're trying but the thing is the public is only interested in their gossip/drama as it relates to the royal family, and so far they have yet to offer up anything that makes them compelling on their own. except for maybe the invictus games (and even then, other than being important for the vets who participate, do you know anyone who's tuned in to watch?), all their projects that they've attempted that have nothing to do with the royal family either got scrapped or aren't as interesting to people as the oprah interview or the tell-alls. meghan's kids' book or that netflix animated project that got scrapped just aren't that interesting to people. it will be interesting to see how her podcast does in the long run and if they manage to develop projects/businesses that are unrelated to the royal family identity. Everything spot on about what Sputnik said. And my add...they haven't found their niche. I feel like the king that abdicated a hundred years or so ago ran off with his American divorcee and stayed quiet, or gradually became irrelevant. I think Harry and Megan ran away too quickly from their royal duties, because 2 years later they still seem hungry for public attention, and the best way they could have gotten that is to have reformed the royal family (I'm not saying that would have been easy, or even something that could have been accomplished, but they could have chipped away at the obligations, stuffiness, or whatever it is they fought so hard against). It just doesn't seem like they really wanted to leave the fame of their former lives. Maybe it's just still too soon. Megan searched for fame (as an actress) and loved it. Harry was born into it and doesn't seem to care for it, yet we are talking about his book, and their joint netflix thing, so maybe he just wants to experience fame more on his terms. But their connection to the royal family is what makes people interested in them, so I think they are screwed if they want to be famous for being "themselves". It was a different time where the Royals had a LOT more influence over what was published and the press itself was an entirely different beast. The Duke and Duchess of Windsor allowed themselves to be 'courted' by Hitler before the second world war and some historians have suggested that the aim was for Edward to retake the British throne as a puppet king should Germany be successful in taking the country. A lot of this - and strong suggestions of fascist leanings, which lead to him being shunted off out of the way to be Governor General of the Bahamas - have only come out relatively recently and I'm sure that there's plenty more that won't be revealed for a long time to come. The Duke did still appear in the press with articles written for various magazines following events like the Queen's Coronation, occasional television interviews and a visit to the Eisenhower Administration White House, but without the influence of the internet to spread these moments across the world in seconds they have become largely forgotten. |
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Post by Sarzy on Nov 4, 2022 11:07:28 GMT
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Post by loftybike on Nov 4, 2022 12:51:00 GMT
Charlene looks so much better now, I'm glad that she is better place. I don't like anyhing here, though.
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Post by greysfang on Nov 4, 2022 14:57:44 GMT
I hate that dress though.
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Post by czb on Nov 4, 2022 19:01:13 GMT
her face looks like she came out of the air fryer.
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Post by shellee on Nov 5, 2022 3:15:05 GMT
They almost look like they like each other in the 3rd picture.
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Post by no1novice on Nov 5, 2022 9:49:33 GMT
Albert: You're getting €10m for this at least you could look like you like me
Charlene: It's not enough
Albert: I'll let you have 6 months living in your apartment (without him)
Charlene: *big smile*
Also not bodyshaming her but - considering that she was supposed to have lost a shitload of weight due to her ill health; I noticed previously that she didn't look underweight at all; and that maybe she's an apply shape due to where she had put the weight back on.
Because of her shape I'm on the fence about the dress. I bet it is *super* comfy, might even have *pockets*, skims over any lumps & bumps (& you could wear comfy stuff under it). I'm just not a floral print person but in a plain colour I think that it would look just -less-.
So I think that I like it for those reasons.
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Post by tulip on Nov 5, 2022 13:38:16 GMT
I actually kind of like this dress. The print is like a watercolor painting. Something about it intrigues me.
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Post by o0amber0o on Nov 5, 2022 13:57:01 GMT
I like the dress too, I think she wears it well. She looks nice.
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