trixie
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Post by trixie on Sept 15, 2022 3:54:55 GMT
I agree, like in PH's case, Rick Salomon should not have been allowed to sell that tape without BOTH parties consent. Nobody should. But I can still think she was dumb to do it.
eta: I do think she was young and naive (18-19) and Saloman was much older so she said she did it to please him. Obviously, he's the scumbag here.
Kim K, well I do believe she did hers to get fame, there was no deception, but that's a whole other story.
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Post by kittylady on Sept 15, 2022 4:02:03 GMT
Unfortunately if you agree to creating intimate images/footage then you have to be aware of the possibility that some day, some how they might end up going much further than you ever intended them to because people can be shitty and vindictive or greedy or just plain old careless with the devices they are stored on. That's the risk you take when you do it, but there should be more education and awareness about the dangers involved as it seems to have become so commonplace and expected to send nudes etc that people aren't stopping to think about the consequences or even that saying no is a valid option (and if the other person doesn't like it then they can fuck off). I think we also need to strengthen (and in some places actually fucking enact) the laws and penalties around the non-consensual sharing of images and for the police to take complaints more seriously.
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trixie
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Post by trixie on Sept 15, 2022 4:22:16 GMT
lol, I didn't think I was a prude but maybe I am. Back in the olden days, no technology, no one would take their nudie pics to the drugstore to be developed so the only thing was polaroids. A guy I knew from high school allegedly had these nude photos of his ex-girlfriend and I don't know why he wasn't there but one night I was at his apartment with my boyfriend at the time and he said "do you want to see the pics of lisa?" which I should have said no obviously but instead he went up in a cabinet and took them out of a cigar box. Scandalous! Not so many years ago, my bff told me, guess who I ran into at the grocery store? Yep, it was Lisa. And that's the first thing we will ever think about her. I bet her ex is now an old perv and still has those pics.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Sept 15, 2022 4:28:29 GMT
I would kind of state it this way - we are sitting on a MOUNTAIN of information that we don't want other people to see, and they have no right to see, unless we give express permission. This includes financial information - like bank account number and balance, credit rating. It includes health information - like HIV status, prescriptions you are taking, illnesses or conditions you are battling. Or information that could enable identity theft - like social security number, birth date, etc. The consequences of the information getting out into the wild is way more damaging than a nude photo or some sex video. If someone hacks your phone for a nude photo or a social security number or bank account number - that's not on you - it's on the person who violated your privacy.
All of this type of information needs to be legally defined as your own, with you having the sole right (unless others are involved) to have it released. Europe has much tighter data privacy restrictions, including "the right to be forgotten" - which basically says that search engines and other sites need to just drop your data after a certain amount of time and not keep it in perpetuity. And good on them for it.
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Post by kittylady on Sept 15, 2022 4:36:12 GMT
lol, I didn't think I was a prude but maybe I am. Back in the olden days, no technology, no one would take their nudie pics to the drugstore to be developed so the only thing was polaroids. A guy I knew from high school allegedly had these nude photos of his ex-girlfriend and I don't know why he wasn't there but one night I was at his apartment with my boyfriend at the time and he said "do you want to see the pics of lisa?" which I should have said no obviously but instead he went up in a cabinet and took them out of a cigar box. Scandalous! Not so many years ago, my bff told me, guess who I ran into at the grocery store? Yep, it was Lisa. And that's the first thing we will ever think about her. I bet her ex is now an old perv and still has those pics. One of the girls I shared with when I first left home found polaroids belonging to the couple that had been in the room before her. They'd stashed them under a chest of drawers and obviously forgotten about them before moving out, only for them to come to light when the girl who was taking over the room decided to rearrange the furniture. I kinda knew the polaroid couple already through the friend that recommended me for the room but all I could think about whenever I saw them anywhere was how his dick was bent like a banana... Funnily enough the girl who found them went on to do actual soft core porn magazine shoots herself and apparently made quite a bit of money.
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Post by sputnik on Sept 15, 2022 13:40:05 GMT
I would kind of state it this way - we are sitting on a MOUNTAIN of information that we don't want other people to see, and they have no right to see, unless we give express permission. This includes financial information - like bank account number and balance, credit rating. It includes health information - like HIV status, prescriptions you are taking, illnesses or conditions you are battling. Or information that could enable identity theft - like social security number, birth date, etc. The consequences of the information getting out into the wild is way more damaging than a nude photo or some sex video. If someone hacks your phone for a nude photo or a social security number or bank account number - that's not on you - it's on the person who violated your privacy. All of this type of information needs to be legally defined as your own, with you having the sole right (unless others are involved) to have it released. Europe has much tighter data privacy restrictions, including "the right to be forgotten" - which basically says that search engines and other sites need to just drop your data after a certain amount of time and not keep it in perpetuity. And good on them for it. This 100%
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