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Post by no on May 21, 2022 3:59:57 GMT
my mother smoked weed the first few months she was pregnant with me and well y'all can see how well I turned out lol
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Post by min on May 21, 2022 21:21:18 GMT
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Post by trixie on May 22, 2022 0:43:35 GMT
Oh, I'm sure my mom smoked while pregnant. She once told me that when lying in bed, the pregnant belly was a good place to rest her ashtray.
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Post by tulip on May 22, 2022 11:59:19 GMT
Oh, I'm sure my mom smoked while pregnant. She once told me that when lying in bed, the pregnant belly was a good place to rest her ashtray. I think my mom did too. I was born in the 60s. No one knew any better then.
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Post by shellee on May 23, 2022 1:14:23 GMT
Oh, I'm sure my mom smoked while pregnant. She once told me that when lying in bed, the pregnant belly was a good place to rest her ashtray. Not only did my mom smoke while pregnant with me, she smoked in the car with me. This was Florida so she had the a/c on and the windows up. I finally had to ask her to crack her window ffs.
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Post by funky on May 23, 2022 9:09:51 GMT
^ same. Born in the 80s, it was a different time. I'm sure my mother told me that she was adviced to smoke less, but not to stop smoking. She smoked in the car as well, but luckily only with the windows open. While I'm really glad we now live in a time where we know so much more about health issues and what not to do in pregnancy, I wish it wasn't so fear-mongering. When my best friend was pregnant, her doctor gave her a list what she wasn't allowed to do anymore. I can't remember everything, but it was a lot. He moved so she got a new one that was much more relaxed and helped her navigate. For example, they say to only eat cheese that has been pasteurised. Which isn't absolutely necessary where we live, but very much so in other countries. Same as a girl I know living in Japan, where there's no problem to eat Sushi while pregnant. Or going to a sauna in Finland. He basically said, don't google too much what you're allowed to do and what not, just ask me, an expert.
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Post by sputnik on May 23, 2022 12:53:45 GMT
^^^^^ this.
european doctors for the most part have more common sense and haven't completely adopted the pregnancy-as-an-illness hysteria of the US and canada... yet. but it's growing. and all it does is stress women out and i'm convinced that stress is way worse than the odd piece of cheese or sushi. i saw it with my best friend and the difference between her first and second pregnancies which were 12 years apart. the first time round her doctor was very chill, told her to cut coffee down to one or two cups a day if she could, that the odd small glass of wine or beer after 5 months was fine, and to eat healthy balanced meals as much as possible but mostly to not worry and live her life as normally as possible. fast forward 12 years later with a new doctor and a whole different culture around pregnancy, especially online and access to millions of hysterical articles that overstate risks like crazy, especially since she was 41-42, and she was a nervous wreck the whole time. i kept telling her to get offline and stop researching and reading because all it was doing was making her neurotic. she had a crying fit once because she walked in front of the microwave while it was running once...
it takes a strong personality to resist that nonsense, and the stupid public pressure that goes with it. i'll never forget going to lunch with a friend in new york, who was at the end of her third pregnancy and she ordered a glass of white wine and the waiter looked at her like she was stabbing forks into her uterus and was like, are you sure? my friend, all 5 feet of her, told the guy to mind his own business and that the baby was almost done cooking anyway and a glass of wine wasn't going to hurt him.
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Post by funky on May 23, 2022 14:03:41 GMT
Exactly! It just causes more stress. If you read everything there is to read about, you don't even know if you're allowed to breathe or if that causes some kind of early contractions. Oh god I feel sorry for your friend and the microwave. My friend (who has children of her own) just told me she was visiting her cousin that recently got a new baby, and she almost cried because she had to walk - I kid you not - 2m to the car, without any shade, and she was convinced her baby will now get skin cancer. Because of the 2m walk to the car. It's ridiculous. Somebody I know booked a weekend get-away in a mountain town. The town was around 1500m altitude. And there are websites suggesting that you shouldn't travel with your baby higher altitudes than xy meters. It was crazy, people made her feel like she's the worst mother in the world because she didn't know about that. I mean, we live in a country with lots of mountains. There are people LIVING there. With babies. So weird.
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Post by sputnik on May 23, 2022 14:14:11 GMT
it's ridiculous. and it's just one more way to guilt and pressure women into basically disappearing and becoming sheltered helicopter mothers with no identity outside of that. fuck that shit.
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Post by notoriousmkg on May 23, 2022 14:53:30 GMT
I think another culprit in all of this are the pendulum swings back and forth in health news for pregnant women. I feel like people love to report some new, edgy research that "Drinking purified water is actually harming your baby." Or some kind of BS like that. People who work for media outlets need to be a little more socially responsible when hyping clickbait "health stories". Let's face it, a lot of parents beat themselves up over what they could have done differently, if anything at all, to prevent their kids from having peanut allergies, autism, and God knows what else.
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Post by funky on May 23, 2022 14:55:51 GMT
Yeah, I feel like most started as "there are no studies that show drinking 4 glasses of tonic water a day is safe during pregnancy" and will turn into "it's unhealthy to drink tonic water while pregnant".
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Post by peach on May 23, 2022 15:43:38 GMT
i was 18 and travelling the world when i found out i was pregnant back in '94. i was very nervous and wracked with guilt about the possible health of my baby because i'd been drinking, partying in smoky clubs, eating questionable food, sleeping irregularly, flying. nothing extreme, just the things you do when you're lucky enough to be young and travelling. my doctor put me at ease, told me that a couple of drunken nights, a little second-hand smoke and some iffy food were unlikely to have done any damage. emphasized that the best things i could do was keep stress minimal, try to eat a healthy diet, and (if possible) enjoy my pregnancy.
comparatively, when my daughter had her baby in 2015, it was a lot more of don't eat this, don't do that, read those 15 books, take all these different vitamins and supplements, remember to exercise for this much time every day, you need to take all these different classes before the end of your second trimester. oh, and shame on you if you don't breast feed for at least the first two years. if you don't do all that, you're going to ruin your child. can't quite tell you how you're going to ruin your child but rest assured that you will.
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Post by notoriousmkg on May 23, 2022 15:47:56 GMT
From personal experience, you can hire all the breastfeeding consultants you want, including La Leche League, etc., but if it's not happening, it's not happening. That is why I feel especially stressed watching all the people across the country scrambling to find baby formula.....
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Post by dolem on May 23, 2022 17:45:59 GMT
I wasn't able to breast feed my two kids, they turned out great. I got a lot of guilt thrown at me for not doing it. But, I was very sick with IBD throughout and after my pregnancies with the two kids and was on medication that was released through breast milk and would not have been good for the babies. Including, prednisone and other immune suppressors. (I can't even remember all the meds I was on at the time, they were awful, but helped me stay healthy). Maternal health is important, too. We choose my health over breastfeeding because a sick mom isn't good for anyone.
My very crunchy hippie sister is law walked out of a breastfeeding class when they started in on the horrors of formula and how it would ruin your baby. She was so mad on my behalf. I've never been so proud of her.
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Post by no1novice on May 23, 2022 18:05:41 GMT
Good for her!
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