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Post by tulip on Apr 2, 2022 14:29:02 GMT
Today in her stories she posted she saw a woman getting harassed on 6th Ave. long story short, she took the woman in her car to get her out of the situation. If true, good for her but we don’t need to know about it. I hate that. It's like the people who have to video themselves giving a homeless person a sandwich and a couple of quid. Just do it because you are a decent human, not for social media karma farming. Nowadays many people don't know how to live their lives if it isn't through social media. They are turning into mini Kardashians, unable to function without video documentation.
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Post by loftybike on Apr 2, 2022 14:36:18 GMT
^^^Meanwhile I still don't even remember to document something until much much later. Which in itself is not bad at all if you'd ask me.
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Post by sputnik on Apr 2, 2022 15:11:54 GMT
I'm an aunt to 5 bilingual kids whose mother is a for real Latina (as opposed to a pretend one). I'm curious if these kids can really speak and understand Spanish. Maybe the nannies speak Spanish. if eelaria is even the least bit smart, she'll have spanish-speaking nannies. if you're disciplined enough with your kids, they'll absorb any language they're exposed to. my parents only spoke to us in spanish at home but i was exposed to english and french through school and i can speak and write all 3 interchangeably. but i know people who make the consistent effort to speak to their kids in a language other than their own so that they grow up with 2 or even 3 languages. my best friend is doing it with her youngest, she only speaks to him in english, dad and brother speak to him in french and he'll go to school in both. i have another uruguayan friend whose husband is swiss and they speak in french but she only talks to their kids in spanish, and their nanny does too, and they go to school in french and english and live in the US so they'll grow up with all 3 languages equally. and another friend who's American but learned french as a student and speaks it fluently and wants her kids to speak it so she speaks to them only in french, and they went to french daycare/pre-school and now go to bilingual french and english school and her husband speaks to them in english. my brother was pretty good with his two oldest, spoke to them only in spanish, his wife speaks to them in english and they live in quebec so they'll go to school in french. but by the time the third kid was born things got too chaotic and he wasn't as good about the spanish and now the oldest speaks it fluently, the middle one kind of and the little one not so great.
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Post by holly on Apr 2, 2022 16:04:40 GMT
I hate that. It's like the people who have to video themselves giving a homeless person a sandwich and a couple of quid. Just do it because you are a decent human, not for social media karma farming. Nowadays many people don't know how to live their lives if it isn't through social media. They are turning into mini Kardashians, unable to function without video documentation. If it's not recorded/photographed, it didn't happen. That's the mentality.
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Post by czb on Apr 2, 2022 18:42:03 GMT
I'm an aunt to 5 bilingual kids whose mother is a for real Latina (as opposed to a pretend one). I'm curious if these kids can really speak and understand Spanish. Maybe the nannies speak Spanish. if eelaria is even the least bit smart, she'll have spanish-speaking nannies. if you're disciplined enough with your kids, they'll absorb any language they're exposed to. my parents only spoke to us in spanish at home but i was exposed to english and french through school and i can speak and write all 3 interchangeably. but i know people who make the consistent effort to speak to their kids in a language other than their own so that they grow up with 2 or even 3 languages. my best friend is doing it with her youngest, she only speaks to him in english, dad and brother speak to him in french and he'll go to school in both. i have another uruguayan friend whose husband is swiss and they speak in french but she only talks to their kids in spanish, and their nanny does too, and they go to school in french and english and live in the US so they'll grow up with all 3 languages equally. and another friend who's American but learned french as a student and speaks it fluently and wants her kids to speak it so she speaks to them only in french, and they went to french daycare/pre-school and now go to bilingual french and english school and her husband speaks to them in english. my brother was pretty good with his two oldest, spoke to them only in spanish, his wife speaks to them in english and they live in quebec so they'll go to school in french. but by the time the third kid was born things got too chaotic and he wasn't as good about the spanish and now the oldest speaks it fluently, the middle one kind of and the little one not so great. in general i agree with this. but my BiL and SiL only spoke to their kids in japanese in the home - she is a native speaker and he learned in school - and both kids were only so-so with japanese. they were born in japan and moved to the us when they were little and would go back to japan for very long periods of time. my SiL told me privately that they speak japanese like they are kindergartners. i don't know if she was just being harsh but both kids tell me they suck at japanese. one ran away from her japanese school in tokyo because she was shamed for how poorly she spoke japanese. i kid you not.
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Post by krisnine on Apr 2, 2022 19:18:24 GMT
I wish my SO would have taught my kidlet Farsi. His whole family speaks it, but no one was the least bit interested in teaching my kid.
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Post by czb on Apr 2, 2022 19:19:48 GMT
that's too bad. i'm surprised your MiL didn't do it since she really liked spending time with your daughter.
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Post by sputnik on Apr 2, 2022 19:49:15 GMT
krisnine, it's too bad none of your farsi relatives want to teach her but honestly if your SO didn't do it consistently at home, having relatives try probably wouldn't be enough. it's what my mom tries to do with my sisters' kids and with my brother's youngest but if my brother and sister aren't consistently putting in the effort to speak it at home, it's not enough.
czb, i don't know what to say about your BIL and SIL, maybe japanese is like chinese and it's too difficult and complex a language to just pick up from speaking at home? maybe the only way to really speak it is if you're going to school and really immersed? and i imagine being shamed for not speaking it properly at school probably didn't exactly instill a love for the language in the kids, which is more than understandable...
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Post by czb on Apr 2, 2022 19:57:59 GMT
yeah, the shaming thing was super bad. basically, in japan they offer admission to the public school for anyone who is a legal resident for x amount of weeks. so my SiL would take the kids to tokyo to stay with her father the minute their US school was done for the year. that would have allowed for 6+ weeks of japanese school given their longer school year. my poor niece was harassed at school and the final straw was when the teacher called her Coward (in japanese) in front of the whole class. i think that was in 2nd grade. my niece ran away and refused to go back. so they stopped trying with the japanese school for both kids. however, they still speak japanese at home.
another local friend (also US dad and japanese mom) went to live in japan for a few years. they thought their kids would get harrassed so they sent their kids to an private international school in which they did japanese immersion. a better idea. and i never told them the story of my niece.
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Post by sputnik on Apr 2, 2022 20:21:39 GMT
yeah isn't the education system in japan pretty brutal? to the point that kids commit suicide because of the pressure...
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Post by czb on Apr 3, 2022 1:37:03 GMT
well it is my perception that the japanese public school system is ruff but i'm a white chick on the left coast. *shrugs*
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Post by charmedhour on Apr 3, 2022 21:14:42 GMT
R’s father spoke minimal English and never taught his sons Spanish. I speak more Spanish than he does from growing up with lots of native Spanish speaking friends.
I have 3 friends that predominantly spoke Spanish in their homes with their children. When it was time to go to K, they were on the cusp of needing to be in ESL classes. All caught up quickly by 3rd grade but very interestingly one speaks English with a mild Puerto Rican Spanish accent.
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Post by dolem on Apr 3, 2022 22:24:55 GMT
My neighbors kids only spoke in Spanish with their gma for years, she's a native speaker who moved to the US as an adult. The neighbors are in the dual language program in our district and are basically fluent in Spanish but the time they're in 5th grade.
My own kid is trying to learn Japanese on his own...it's hard but he's sticking with it
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Post by no1novice on Apr 4, 2022 7:15:42 GMT
well i for one am glad she's back on the gram providing endless entertainment and i can't wait to critique the pregnant headstands and tearful videos that you know are coming. and nov, she is the definition of trying too hard. the tracy flick of breeding and bendiness. eta: and bilingualism. how could i forget? Speaking of which I need yoga-@-home recommendations
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Post by pecanpie on Apr 4, 2022 20:58:04 GMT
well i for one am glad she's back on the gram providing endless entertainment and i can't wait to critique the pregnant headstands and tearful videos that you know are coming. and nov, she is the definition of trying too hard. the tracy flick of breeding and bendiness. eta: and bilingualism. how could i forget? Speaking of which I need yoga-@-home recommendations Her videos come highly recommended… www.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene/videoswww.youtube.com/user/yogawithadriene/videos
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