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Post by sputnik on Feb 23, 2024 16:00:12 GMT
i read somewhere he'd left the home 18 months before but that doesn't make him any less guilty IMO. that menas he either didn't see the kids for 18 months and check in on them, or he didn't do anything about the abuse during that time.
also wtf kind of sentence is '4 to 60 years'?
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Post by kittylady on Feb 23, 2024 16:23:18 GMT
i read somewhere he'd left the home 18 months before but that doesn't make him any less guilty IMO. that menas he either didn't see the kids for 18 months and check in on them, or he didn't do anything about the abuse during that time. also wtf kind of sentence is '4 to 60 years'? She got four sentences, but they are to run consecutively rather than concurrently. Once one finishes, the next automatically begins. Utah law caps consecutive sentences at 30 years so really she's looking at anywhere between 15 and 30 years inside. |
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Post by sputnik on Feb 23, 2024 16:35:20 GMT
I know what’s confusing me is how many years there is between the min and max. 1 to 15, or 4 to 60 when accumulated. That’s ridiculous
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Post by kittylady on Feb 23, 2024 16:38:47 GMT
I know what’s confusing me is how many years there is between the min and max. 1 to 15, or 4 to 60 when accumulated. That’s ridiculous The general consensus (that I can see online, so take from that what you will) is that she'll do a minimum of 15 years. |
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Post by no1novice on Feb 24, 2024 0:44:17 GMT
Everyone should make up their own mind but all of his screaming is a great patriarchal-mind-fuck-divertion-tactic. Always blame the woman.
"Some content from 8 Passengers had evidently alarming instances where Ruby tried to discipline her children with brutal punishments.
One clip shows Ruby and her husband Kevin talking about throwing away their children’s belongings, including their son Chad’s homework, unless he pays for the items in cash. Kevin said in the video that the kids can also do equivalent chores to earn their things back."
"Other clips from 8 Passengers showed how Ruby discussed with Kevin taking the children’s bedrooms away. She often punished her kids by withholding food. The couple even canceled Christmas for their youngest child once for being "selfish"."
"Ruby’s estranged husband, Kevin Franke, who has proclaimed his own innocence via his attorney, has tried to come after Shari for burglary charges after his family’s scandal broke."
"Followers of the family and internet sleuths alike have long accused Ruby of abuse.
Back in 2020, the mother of six raised eyebrows after she admitted to forcing her now-18-year-old son to sleep on a beanbag for seven months as a form of punishment.
She also once refused to bring her then-6-year-old daughter lunch at school after the little one forgot to pack it herself.
“I just got a text message from Eve’s teacher, and she said that Eve did not pack a lunch today,” Ruby said in a since-deleted video."
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Post by kittylady on Feb 24, 2024 1:37:17 GMT
no1novice He should be facing some sort of investigation/charges too because what happened to those kids was not a new thing and it's there in their own videos that he both knew and participated in some of it. I'd certainly be interested to know what the reasoning is behind it. Was it decided that the kids had already been through enough that losing both parents to prison would be too much for them and that one crappy parent who was being closely monitored was better than none? Did the kids resist giving incriminating statements against him for similar reasons? Did Ruby agree to take the fall for them both? Or will he be hit with an investigation/charges now that she's been dealt with? There's a LOT of questions that could do with being answered.
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Post by no1novice on Feb 24, 2024 11:14:48 GMT
kittylady It's not happening because patriarchy & Utah & religion. They were together 23 years + separated 1yr - 18months. He was also a member of this Connexion group. And let's not forget that *he* had his daughter charged with b&e after she collected some of her belongings from their house. Also did you hear her statement in court? She *thanked* 29488538 people and finally didn't even apologise to her kids. *someone else made me do it* appeared to be the reason. Everyone is claiming brainwashing and cannot blame her for those poor kids. ETA:- CPS couldn't get a warrant? Kevin Franke has some awful (if true) reviews @ rate my professor The Frankes had political connections? (TV show, money, kids went to the best school) Really interesting podcast - husband & wife team, journalist & a forensics psychologist open.spotify.com/episode/5n3OdXdLcsiEcmZzsBH7Z6RUBY FRANKE/ JODI HILDEBRANDT CASE: Answering your questions, including: "Were Jodi and Ruby in a romantic relationship?" "Is Kevin Franke Responsible?" Hidden: A True Crime Podcast
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Post by no1novice on Mar 26, 2024 1:00:11 GMT
TRIGGER WARNING
Ruby Franke’s newly released journal entries detail horrific abuse of her children
By Social Links for Nicki Cox
Published March 25, 2024, 2:36 p.m. ET
Ruby Franke, a disgraced mom-influencer who is serving a maximum of 30 years in prison, kept detailed handwritten journal entries about the daily abuse she inflicted on her children.
On Friday, prosecutors released months’ worth of heavily redacted entries in which Franke described abusing two of her six children — who were referenced as “R” and “E.”
In one entry from July 2023, the former “8 Passengers” Youtuber, 42, wrote that it was a “big day for evil.”
Warning: graphic description of child abuse
She then described holding her 12-year-old son, who she believed to be possessed by a demon, underwater while she placed her hands “tightly over his nose & mouth.”
“These selfish, selfish children who desire only to take, lie, and attack have zero understanding of god’s love for them,” Franke wrote in her journal.
Franke also withheld food and water from her son, which she justified by writing, “I will not feed a demon.”
In another journal entry from around the same time, Franke revealed that she cut off her daughter’s hair and “doused” her with water in the “dog wash.” Franke explained that it was punishment for the young girl wanting to break the two-day fast that was forced upon her.
Franke described shaving her daughter’s head numerous other times in the past for whining, writing, “If she is going to act sick, she can look sick.”
Ruby was arrested in August 2023 on multiple charges of child abuse alongside her former business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt, after her son climbed out of a window in the latter’s Utah home and ran to their neighbor for help.
Both women — who belonged to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — pleaded guilty to four counts of aggravated child abuse in December.
In a case summary, the Washington County Attorney’s Office said that religious extremism motivated Franke and Hildebrandt to “inflict this horrific abuse.”
“The women appeared to fully believe that the abuse they inflicted was necessary to teach the children how to properly repent for imagined ‘sins’ and to cast the evil spirits out of their bodies,” the summary, posted Friday, read.
The two kids were held in a “work-camp-like setting” and “were regularly denied food, water, beds to sleep in, and virtually all forms of entertainment,” per the report.
They were forced to perform manual labor as punishment — often in the sweltering heat without water, shoes or socks on a cement patio — and beaten.
Before Franke’s son escaped, he was bound with ropes and his feet were tied to weights so that he could not flee after being caught trying to run away.
Despite that, Franke and Hildebrandt’s abuse was exposed in August 2023 after the boy fled to a neighbor’s house asking for help.
“I just had a 12-year-old boy show up here at my front door asking for help, and he said he just came from a neighbor’s house, and we know there’s been problems at this neighbor’s house,” the concerned neighbor told 911.
“He’s emaciated. He’s got tape around his legs. He’s hungry, and he’s thirsty. … I don’t think he needs an ambulance,” the man added. “I’ll let the cops decide that, but his ankles are taped up, and he won’t tell us why. … There’s sores around him.”
According to the neighbor, the boy believed the injuries were “his fault.”
The kids’ father, Kevin Franke, claims he played no role in the abuse and that they were separated at the time of her arrest.
He filed for divorce in November 2023 and requested guardianship of the former couple’s teenage daughter Abby in February 2024.
Disgraced YouTuber Ruby Franke insisted she didn’t do ‘naughty things’ in creepy jailhouse call with husband Kevin
By Social Links for Nicki Cox
Published March 25, 2024, 7:36 p.m. ET
Ruby Franke made a series of disturbing jailhouse calls to estranged husband Kevin Franke after being arrested on multiple charges of child abuse.
On Friday, Utah prosecutors released several of the calls between the parents of six, one of which Ruby could be heard blaming the devil for her actions.
“Satan has taken everything away from me that I love,” the “8 Passengers” creator said during a Sept. 1 call. “And I’m a good woman. I don’t do naughty things. I don’t do naughty things. I’m a really good girl.”
Kevin, who has since filed for divorce, then told her he was going to “do everything that [he] can to keep truth in our family.”
“I am committed to our family,” he said. “I am committed to you and our marriage no matter what happens. I will be here to support you in any way that I can.”
Elsewhere in the call, the disgraced YouTuber said she felt “completely misunderstood” and compared herself to Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism.
Ruby also told Kevin, who claimed he played no role in the abuse, that he could “have the house” in order to get their kids back.
Just two days prior, the former couple’s youngest son escaped from the home where he and his younger sister were being held captive by Ruby and her business partner, Jodi Hildebrandt.
Newly released video from his escape show the 12-year-old running to their neighbors’ house asking if they would do him a “favor” and call the police.
The boy — referred to in court documents as RF — had duct tape around his wrists and ankles, was covered in sores and desrcibed as looking malnourished.
After the police arrived, both Ruby and Hildebrandt were brought into custody under suspicion of multiple counts of aggravated child abuse.
The day after her arrest, Franke made another call to Kevin, asking if she was “in the news” and claimed the investigation was a “witch hunt” — despite later pleading guilty to four felony counts of second-degree aggravated child abuse.
“The devil has been after me for years,” she said.
When told her children were going to be in the hospital for “three days,” Ruby seemed confused rather than concerned.
“It’s so weird its just not necessary,” she said. “They are trying to exaggerate this.”
In a phone call from the same day, Ruby claimed that “adults have a really hard time understanding that children can be full of evil, and what that takes to fight it.”
In the case summary released Friday by the Washington County Attorney’s Office, prosecutors explained that “religious extremism” motivated Ruby and Hildebrandt to inflict such “horrific abuse” on the children.
The two kids were starved, beaten, forced to work long hours in the heat without shoes or water and punished with physical tasks.
Ruby detailed the daily abuse in a handwritten journal, revealing she once held her son underwater while covering his nose.
The former YouTube star was sentenced to serve up to 60 years in prison for the horrific abuse last month. Hildebrandt received the same sentence.
However, Utah law states that imprisonment terms must not exceed more than 30 years when consecutive sentences are issued — meaning the Utah Board of Pardons and Parole will decide how long she stays behind bars.
Four of Franke’s children remain in the care of the Department of Child and Family Services. However, Kevin is in the process of trying to win them back.
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Post by no1novice on Mar 26, 2024 1:04:30 GMT
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