trixie
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stuck in the middle with you...
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Post by trixie on Jan 16, 2023 0:38:13 GMT
I bought the book, but haven't had time to get past the first chapter. It's around 400 pages, and that's without a lot of photos! Some pretty flowery prose for sure.
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Post by Tati on Jan 16, 2023 15:52:13 GMT
I totally think they swing. I'm getting those vibes for sure. "It's all good cause we're in on the sexy fun times together." Which is all well and good, but he's still just so punchable.
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Post by tulip on Jan 16, 2023 18:47:28 GMT
I totally think they swing. I'm getting those vibes for sure. "It's all good cause we're in on the sexy fun times together." Which is all well and good, but he's still just so punchable. So is she in that hideous dress that time travelled from the 80s.
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Post by Sarzy on Jan 16, 2023 22:29:58 GMT
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Post by kittylady on Jan 17, 2023 2:04:23 GMT
That's the most overwhelmingly literate review of a celebrity bio I think I've ever read. It almost makes me want to read "Spare" especially as I love Hamlet. So many details though. Are we supposed to believe that the sheets at Balmoral are all patched and mended? That's so bizarre on every level. The son of the Prince of Wales, sleeping on "century old" linens? Not sure I buy that. Also...Frogmore Cottage is adjacent to a burial ground? What? The part about Windsor Castle being full of dead people did occur to me when I was watching Prince Philip's funeral. I thought how odd it would be to live in a building where many of your ancestors were buried just a short walk away from your living quarters. Kind of cool but also a bit spooky. I totally believe it. I've worked for/with more than a few of the super-wealthy - and even with some "blue-bloods." They can be the cheapest people on earth. They also have 'people' who do all the mending/fixing/shoring up and so why spend it? One Fortune 500 guy I worked for went nuts because his wife bought three pairs of pants at the whopping price of $39.00 each. That's thirty-nine dollars. Granted it was decades ago, but still. That was 3 days after he bought a Rolls Royce for her at a charity auction, btw. The best part was he told me to call her up and tell her she had to return them! That's the first example that comes to mind, but I could go on for days. Sometimes even fairly decent people have some weird idiosyncrasies burned into their subconscious and it comes out in crazy ways. I have no trouble at all thinking the sheets at some castle nursery have more darning than original sheet. Absolutely. There is nobody meaner and more tight-fisted while being simultaneously frivolous than 'old money'. Kind of like "These tweed shooting britches were good enough for your grandfather so they damn well should be good enough for YOU!" while quaffing a £300 bottle of Port over dinner.
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Post by lindsaywhit on Jan 17, 2023 2:44:22 GMT
^^^ Yup. That's it exactly.
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Post by faithanne on Jan 17, 2023 5:06:38 GMT
Absolutely. There is nobody meaner and more tight-fisted while being simultaneously frivolous than 'old money'. Kind of like "These tweed shooting britches were good enough for your grandfather so they damn well should be good enough for YOU!" while quaffing a £300 bottle of Port over dinner. Back in the 80s I was given "The Sloane Rangers' Guide to Life" and this was the first rule, that anyone truly old money and upper class wouldn't dream of buying a new suit, and you could spot them at the races because they were all wearing unfashionable, threadbare (but very expensive) suits that had been handed down and taken out and patched over the decades.
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Post by brookie on Jan 17, 2023 13:35:26 GMT
Nice to know that Sofia is in the middle. I was confused momentarily.
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Post by sputnik on Jan 17, 2023 14:21:25 GMT
Absolutely. There is nobody meaner and more tight-fisted while being simultaneously frivolous than 'old money'. Kind of like "These tweed shooting britches were good enough for your grandfather so they damn well should be good enough for YOU!" while quaffing a £300 bottle of Port over dinner. Back in the 80s I was given "The Sloane Rangers' Guide to Life" and this was the first rule, that anyone truly old money and upper class wouldn't dream of buying a new suit, and you could spot them at the races because they were all wearing unfashionable, threadbare (but very expensive) suits that had been handed down and taken out and patched over the decades. not just brits either. it's the same with a certain type of new england old money types, and 'quiet' old money types in a lot of other places too. i know one guy (massachusetts old money) who makes a shit ton of money, has a very high profile job that pays very well (plus family money), went to yale then harvard law, and walks around in suits that cost him a lot of money originally and are kinda threadbare and old, an old leather briefcase that's sagging and falling apart, and shoes that have been resoled and mended a bunch of times. i traveled with him for work once and his suitcases are also falling apart. and i have a friend who's closer to him and met his parents and same thing. and i went to high school with a lot of old swiss money. i was good friends with one guy whose family owns basically the largest swiss private bank, there are literally streets named after his relatives in geneva. he moved in wiht his girlfriend when we were in university and they would split every expense down the middle, he drove around in an old car, wore the same old clothes all the time, and his parents lived in a nice old house full of furniture and art that was nice but not ostentatious and had been handed down and drove an old volvo and they just lived pretty simply for people worth a fucking fortune. eta: i actually don't hate it and prefer that to the kardashian breed of rich people.
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Post by faithanne on Jan 17, 2023 23:08:54 GMT
and his parents lived in a nice old house full of furniture and art that was nice but not ostentatious and had been handed down and drove an old volvo and they just lived pretty simply for people worth a fucking fortune. Lol that reminds me of the posh mother in Succession who's old money English and laughs that her social-climbing new husband "had to buy all his own furniture"
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Post by sassiness on Jan 18, 2023 11:14:54 GMT
I totally believe it. I've worked for/with more than a few of the super-wealthy - and even with some "blue-bloods." They can be the cheapest people on earth. They also have 'people' who do all the mending/fixing/shoring up and so why spend it? One Fortune 500 guy I worked for went nuts because his wife bought three pairs of pants at the whopping price of $39.00 each. That's thirty-nine dollars. Granted it was decades ago, but still. That was 3 days after he bought a Rolls Royce for her at a charity auction, btw. The best part was he told me to call her up and tell her she had to return them! That's the first example that comes to mind, but I could go on for days. Sometimes even fairly decent people have some weird idiosyncrasies burned into their subconscious and it comes out in crazy ways. I have no trouble at all thinking the sheets at some castle nursery have more darning than original sheet. Absolutely. There is nobody meaner and more tight-fisted while being simultaneously frivolous than 'old money'. Kind of like "These tweed shooting britches were good enough for your grandfather so they damn well should be good enough for YOU!" while quaffing a £300 bottle of Port over dinner. Remember that bit Terry Pratchett wrote in Guards Guards. Not the Boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness. Terry wrote that the very rich remain rich by not spending money. Kids in the Shades wear hand me downs because they’re poorer than dirt. Rich folks wear Great Granny’s tweed skirt because “history”
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Post by sassiness on Jan 18, 2023 11:18:05 GMT
Back in the 80s I was given "The Sloane Rangers' Guide to Life" and this was the first rule, that anyone truly old money and upper class wouldn't dream of buying a new suit, and you could spot them at the races because they were all wearing unfashionable, threadbare (but very expensive) suits that had been handed down and taken out and patched over the decades. not just brits either. it's the same with a certain type of new england old money types, and 'quiet' old money types in a lot of other places too. i know one guy (massachusetts old money) who makes a shit ton of money, has a very high profile job that pays very well (plus family money), went to yale then harvard law, and walks around in suits that cost him a lot of money originally and are kinda threadbare and old, an old leather briefcase that's sagging and falling apart, and shoes that have been resoled and mended a bunch of times. i traveled with him for work once and his suitcases are also falling apart. and i have a friend who's closer to him and met his parents and same thing. and i went to high school with a lot of old swiss money. i was good friends with one guy whose family owns basically the largest swiss private bank, there are literally streets named after his relatives in geneva. he moved in wiht his girlfriend when we were in university and they would split every expense down the middle, he drove around in an old car, wore the same old clothes all the time, and his parents lived in a nice old house full of furniture and art that was nice but not ostentatious and had been handed down and drove an old volvo and they just lived pretty simply for people worth a fucking fortune. eta: i actually don't hate it and prefer that to the kardashian breed of rich people. The Australian version is the old school rich lawyer wearing RM Williams boots who has never been to a farm. admittedly, I am a lawyer and I do have a pair of RMs. They’re amazing, formal but comfortable and last forever. And I got them second hand off eBay. but rich cunts have daddy’s money buy them new, at about $500-700 a pop.
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Post by funky on Jan 18, 2023 11:34:26 GMT
Back in the 80s I was given "The Sloane Rangers' Guide to Life" and this was the first rule, that anyone truly old money and upper class wouldn't dream of buying a new suit, and you could spot them at the races because they were all wearing unfashionable, threadbare (but very expensive) suits that had been handed down and taken out and patched over the decades. not just brits either. it's the same with a certain type of new england old money types, and 'quiet' old money types in a lot of other places too. i know one guy (massachusetts old money) who makes a shit ton of money, has a very high profile job that pays very well (plus family money), went to yale then harvard law, and walks around in suits that cost him a lot of money originally and are kinda threadbare and old, an old leather briefcase that's sagging and falling apart, and shoes that have been resoled and mended a bunch of times. i traveled with him for work once and his suitcases are also falling apart. and i have a friend who's closer to him and met his parents and same thing. and i went to high school with a lot of old swiss money. i was good friends with one guy whose family owns basically the largest swiss private bank, there are literally streets named after his relatives in geneva. he moved in wiht his girlfriend when we were in university and they would split every expense down the middle, he drove around in an old car, wore the same old clothes all the time, and his parents lived in a nice old house full of furniture and art that was nice but not ostentatious and had been handed down and drove an old volvo and they just lived pretty simply for people worth a fucking fortune. eta: i actually don't hate it and prefer that to the kardashian breed of rich people. Yeah, I know some Swiss with "old money" and you wouldn't guess it if you meet them. Not necessarily old clothes, but def. no big brand logos or anything like that. Very casual. Old and/or cheap car, always. The only thing would be an expensive watch. My friend who used to work at a Swiss bank told me one of the first things you learn is that you'll never be able to guess the money a client has lying around in the bank by just looking at them. Old cute couple, wore down clothes, nothing fancy at all, casually having two million dollars in that one account only. Other couple, shiny clothes, preferably with obvious Louis Vuitton bag etc, living paycheck by paycheck. My parents always said it's from the rich people you learn how to save money.
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Post by kittylady on Jan 18, 2023 20:20:55 GMT
Absolutely. There is nobody meaner and more tight-fisted while being simultaneously frivolous than 'old money'. Kind of like "These tweed shooting britches were good enough for your grandfather so they damn well should be good enough for YOU!" while quaffing a £300 bottle of Port over dinner. Remember that bit Terry Pratchett wrote in Guards Guards. Not the Boots theory of socioeconomic unfairness. Terry wrote that the very rich remain rich by not spending money. Kids in the Shades wear hand me downs because they’re poorer than dirt. Rich folks wear Great Granny’s tweed skirt because “history” I'm a huge Discworld fan so I know it well!
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Post by no1novice on Jan 18, 2023 20:51:39 GMT
Same! A lot of truth in those book under the guise of fiction.
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