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Post by louiswinthorpe111 on Jul 13, 2022 15:08:47 GMT
Truthfully, the jean jacket, former Oath Keeper guy was most terrifying. All of these militant groups have been planning this for years, and he fears the next election cycle and possible bloodshed. I don't even know where we go from here.
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Post by trixie on Jul 13, 2022 15:59:39 GMT
I agree, the things he said were pretty scary. I found myself wondering, isn't he afraid they'll come after him for speaking out?
I also thought the guy who was arrested for Jan 6 was scary, describing how he was just a normal guy who got sucked into things on social media and that Trump said, to the point that he thought Trump was instructing people what to do, so he flew to DC, rented a room, and showed up at the Capitol. Of course he was arrested, lost his job of 20 years, but when asked if he still believes the election was stolen, he says "not as much as before". I just don't understnd how people can be so stupid, and we're surrounded by them.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Jul 13, 2022 18:43:38 GMT
Supposedly, they have Bannon on tape now saying that Trump's plan was to declare victor while he was still ahead in the vote counts. And then say, "Too bad. Suck it!" when the counts started to go the other way. Which is basically an admission that he knew he was going to lose and then deliberately lie about it and see if he could get away with it.
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Post by dolem on Jul 13, 2022 19:37:23 GMT
I heard that audio, found on reddit, last night. Yep, 100% what you just said. The plan was to never admit defeat, declare victory no matter what the actual outcome of the election was/is.
Trump personally called a witness, I hope they get him on RICO charges for witness tampering and instruction everyone to do all this insane stuff.
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Post by panic on Jul 13, 2022 21:37:37 GMT
when asked if he still believes the election was stolen, he says "not as much as before". I just don't understnd how people can be so stupid, and we're surrounded by them. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that answer. I'm still grasping how it's not glaringly obvious trump is a con artist, I thought it was a no-brainer. And did the trump support from white nationalist groups not give him a hint? If you're aligning yourself with neo-nazis, you're on the wrong side.
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Post by trixie on Jul 13, 2022 22:53:37 GMT
Supposedly, they have Bannon on tape now saying that Trump's plan was to declare victor while he was still ahead in the vote counts. And then say, "Too bad. Suck it!" when the counts started to go the other way. Which is basically an admission that he knew he was going to lose and then deliberately lie about it and see if he could get away with it. Didn't he kind of do that? He was ahead, so he said, don't count any more votes, I won. If I remember correctly. when asked if he still believes the election was stolen, he says "not as much as before". I just don't understnd how people can be so stupid, and we're surrounded by them. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that answer. I'm still grasping how it's not glaringly obvious trump is a con artist, I thought it was a no-brainer. And did the trump support from white nationalist groups not give him a hint? If you're aligning yourself with neo-nazis, you're on the wrong side. It's mind boggling. Like he's still not quite sure...these people need cult deprogramming.
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Post by Cartermrc on Jul 14, 2022 0:33:10 GMT
I remember Trump tweeting “Stop the count!” on election night. Sure, just stop counting citizen's votes because you want to win. Maybe we should try that at sporting events and stop the game when the score is the way you want it. Bloody conman.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Jul 14, 2022 3:04:11 GMT
I want to also mention that BEFORE the general election, Bernie Sanders predicted EXACTLY how it would go down. That early votes coming in would make it look like Trump was winning, but that as additional votes came in, presumably from mail ins, etc., that Biden would eventually take the lead and win.
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Post by waterslide on Jul 14, 2022 19:59:37 GMT
Just saw - for real this time - that Ivana Trump died.
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Post by no1novice on Jul 16, 2022 9:48:49 GMT
Deposition of Trump, 2 children delayed after Ivana's death Former President Donald Trump and two of his children got their questioning postponed Friday in a New York civil investigation into their business dealings Via AP news wire 20 hours ago Trump Legal Troubles Trump Legal Troubles (Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.) Former President Donald Trump and two of his children got their questioning postponed Friday in a New York civil investigation into their business dealings, a delay that follows the death of Trump’s ex-wife Ivana. The ex-president, son Don Jr. and daughter Ivanka had been scheduled for depositions — a term for out-of-court questioning under oath — starting as soon as Friday. But New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office said it had agreed to postpone them because of Ivana Trump’s death Thursday. There are no new dates. James alleges that the ex-president’s company, the Trump Organization, inflated the values of skyscrapers, golf courses and other holdings in order to get loans, insurance and other benefits. Trump has denied the allegations, saying that it’s common in the real estate industry to seek the best valuations. The Republican has dismissed the investigation as part of a politically motivated “witch hunt” by Democrats such as James. www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ap-ivana-trump-new-york-trump-letitia-james-b2124077.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=Feed
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Post by brookie on Jul 16, 2022 20:23:48 GMT
These fucking people make me sick.
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Post by constancespry on Jul 16, 2022 22:17:33 GMT
The problem is, the people who should be watching/listening to this aren't, and won't. The wing nuts on another (political) forum I’m on are bitching that this wasn’t an insurrection, these were just sweet, innocent, peaceful protesters. And it’s a dem conspiracy to make them and rump look bad. And the dems just want to lock up rump so he won’t be president again, and on and on. These people are crazy and pretty scary.
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Post by MsDark on Jul 16, 2022 22:39:00 GMT
I want to also mention that BEFORE the general election, Bernie Sanders predicted EXACTLY how it would go down. That early votes coming in would make it look like Trump was winning, but that as additional votes came in, presumably from mail ins, etc., that Biden would eventually take the lead and win. Damn if only we could have had Bernie.
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Post by tulip on Jul 22, 2022 14:47:37 GMT
Watching the the hearing last night. Forgot about the about-face that McCarthy and McConnell did afterward -- first condemning it and then later sweeping it under the rug. I forgot they ever spoke out against what happened.
Sad thing about these hearings -- the people that need to see and hear these findings will never watch and if they do they will think the entire thing is manufactured and fake. I still can't wrap my head around how gullible people are.
I seriously hope something comes of this.
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Post by trixie on Jul 22, 2022 15:46:26 GMT
^ Well, since Fox News didn't air it they definitely won't see it and will continue to believe it was justified because the election was stolen.
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