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Post by notoriousmkg on Mar 15, 2022 4:10:02 GMT
So, the latest stuff I've been seeing is that Germany is probably going to pause opening back up because they have a surge in cases. And China shut down an entire city again because of rising rates, but there are still increasing rates across the country. I can't tell whether or not it is the BA2 variation.
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Post by kittylady on Mar 16, 2022 0:31:35 GMT
So, the latest stuff I've been seeing is that Germany is probably going to pause opening back up because they have a surge in cases. And China shut down an entire city again because of rising rates, but there are still increasing rates across the country. I can't tell whether or not it is the BA2 variation. Here in the UK we're hearing about cases doubling in a very short period of time. We're not done with this by a long shot and I'm going to go back to wearing a mask in shops and on public transport again.
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Post by sputnik on Mar 16, 2022 13:41:35 GMT
it looks like germany's going ahead with reopening despite cases being high (it's weird, i guess their omicron wave isn't over). www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-relax-covid-restrictions/a-61132319it sounds like they're basically relaxing the restrictions because they're too high for the current risk level, and also because they realise that if they wait for over 75% of the population to be vaccinated, they'd have to keep the measures forever because that's never going to happen, so 'defeating' the virus is off the table as an option. switzerland also has stagnant vaccination rates that are lower than much of western europe so they've also kind of taken the pragmatic decision to live with that and scrapped all measures a few weeks ago. as for the comment re: the high death rate, keep in mind the spanish flu was still killing 100,000 people per year in the US in 1928-29 so it's not that the virus went anywhere, it's that people decided not to live in pandemic mode anymore and accepted it as part of the landscape and along with it the increased risk. this was without vaccines and treatments that we have today but still that's a shitload of people for the population at the time. i think the US is moving toward that too. vaxx rates are at more or less 70% and that's not going to change. what else are you going to do if the supreme court basically shot down biden's attempts to force people to get vaxxed?
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Post by notoriousmkg on Mar 16, 2022 14:43:19 GMT
^^^ The scary part is that the 5th Circuit Court shot down Biden's ability to even enforce COVID vaccinations in Seal Team Six. Originally, it was some lone judge in Texas who barred the vaccine requirement. The 5th Circuit supported the judge and refused to suspend its decision pending an appeal to the Supreme Court. So, now there is an emergency appeal to the USSC and who knows what will happen? Depending on the scope of the decision, the federal government could lose all power to enforce mandated vaccines, even though there is established legal precedent.
The USSC is also about to hear a case that could upend the EPA's regulatory powers.
In 4 short years, the tope levels of our judiciary have been tilted toward people who just want to watch the world burn.
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Post by sputnik on Mar 16, 2022 14:53:20 GMT
i still blame all the assholes who aren't hardcore republicans and just didn't vote in 2016 or voted trump or some stupid third party candidate because they 'hate hillary'.
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Post by notoriousmkg on Mar 16, 2022 15:28:27 GMT
i still blame all the assholes who aren't hardcore republicans and just didn't vote in 2016 or voted trump or some stupid third party candidate because they 'hate hillary'. I blame them, too. By the way, someone a while back showed definitive statistics that indicated that Ralph Nader's candidacy in 2000 threw the Presidency to George W. Bush. People are just go g*ddamn dumb....
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Post by funky on Mar 16, 2022 15:46:53 GMT
it looks like germany's going ahead with reopening despite cases being high (it's weird, i guess their omicron wave isn't over). www.dw.com/en/germany-set-to-relax-covid-restrictions/a-61132319it sounds like they're basically relaxing the restrictions because they're too high for the current risk level, and also because they realise that if they wait for over 75% of the population to be vaccinated, they'd have to keep the measures forever because that's never going to happen, so 'defeating' the virus is off the table as an option. switzerland also has stagnant vaccination rates that are lower than much of western europe so they've also kind of taken the pragmatic decision to live with that and scrapped all measures a few weeks ago. as for the comment re: the high death rate, keep in mind the spanish flu was still killing 100,000 people per year in the US in 1928-29 so it's not that the virus went anywhere, it's that people decided not to live in pandemic mode anymore and accepted it as part of the landscape and along with it the increased risk. this was without vaccines and treatments that we have today but still that's a shitload of people for the population at the time. i think the US is moving toward that too. vaxx rates are at more or less 70% and that's not going to change. what else are you going to do if the supreme court basically shot down biden's attempts to force people to get vaxxed? Re: Switzerland - yes, we let go of almost all measurements, which resulted in higher cases again. The vaccination rate will never get higher than that, as the ones that didn't want to, don't have a reason now because you don't need a certificate to go to a restaurant or club anymore - also you can travel to almost all neighbour countries without vaccination or tests (only Austria wants a test and Germany wants a vaccination). My SIL from Germany will visit us next week because they are limited in places to visit without a third vaccination which she hasn't. Since this week the cases, especiall in schools, rise again as the winter vacations are over - they are talking about remote schooling again. And I really, REALLY don't understand why the working from home restriction has been lifted. As soon as everyone that was able to had to work from home, you saw a significant decrease in cases. I like public transport but you will get every possible disease using them.
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Post by sputnik on Mar 16, 2022 15:57:32 GMT
i think cases going up is normal, and was expected. and not necessarily cause for panic. i think it makes sense to loosen/abandon restrictions and then tighten them when it's really necessary because hospitalisations are going up dramatically. at least give people windows of normalcy in between waves. after two years it's necessary for everyone's mental health.
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Post by trixie on Mar 17, 2022 0:59:45 GMT
I don't even know how to act in public anymore. I went to our town hall, masks required, sign on the door, ok. Employees behind glass with no masks. Went to the post office, forgot about putting my mask on, no sign on the door, but a sign inside encouraging masking. Looked around, no customers wearing masks but employees were. Went to the printers office to pick up an order, their email said masking required and one customer in the shop at a time. No sign on the door. Put on my mask and went in, two employees at the counter were not wearing masks. Went to the drugstore, no signs, no customers with masks but employees were wearing masks although some of them had masks pulled down under their chins.
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Post by loftybike on Mar 26, 2022 12:13:08 GMT
Fucking hell, my test was just positive. I'm 3G, but still pretty sick, flu-like symptoms, fever, some pain in the chest. We think we have a "super-spreader" in one of our children's groups, after over 2 years with no single positive caretaker, we are 4 people short due to Covid right now.
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Post by imnotbitter on Mar 26, 2022 17:11:34 GMT
Oh no lofty!
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Post by czb on Mar 26, 2022 20:01:37 GMT
sorry lofty. feel better soon.
here, there is a mix of people who wear masks indoors. i would say 60:40 (mask: no mask). i still wear a mask when i go shopping. i did notice that when i went to take my daughters clothes shopping (a few department stores and also some smaller retail stores), very few wore masks. only us and maybe 1-2 others. so odd. but our rates are in the gutter.
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Post by sputnik on Mar 27, 2022 0:29:42 GMT
Feel better, lofty! It’s weird times for sure. Different rules in different places and if you move through enough of them in a short period of time, it’s almost like whiplash. I’m at the point where I wear masks if it’s mandated or if I’m in an Uber or a taxi. The rest of the time I am trying to get to a place where I can enjoy my life normally, at least for as long as this lasts and the next wave comes.
I’m on my way back from my first work trip in 2+ years, to the Dominican Republic and Panama. No more masks in the DR and restrictions have been over for weeks and their cases are still super low so I didn’t worry either and only wore a mask when I took taxis and enjoyed my time there even though it was mostly work. It was reaaaaaally nice having in person meetings again though, and seeing people’s faces. And we got a lot of shit done that we’ve been pushing for for over a year because the fact is virtual will never replace in person, at least not in my line of work. You don’t establish the same kind of trust over zoom that you do by sitting across the table with someone, especially when part of the work is getting government officials to open up and be frank about their governments shortcomings.
Panama still has a mask mandate but they’re gone on Monday and their Covid rates are also pretty much almost at zero, so people were pretty relaxed about it, I wore a mask all the time indoors but it was tough, plus it was 33C and so fucking humid it felt like 38C so wearing a mask was pretty awful, but even then it was good to have in person work meetings and here too we achieved more in one day of meetings than in the last six months of virtual meetings.
I was a little bit nervous going to get my antigen test so that I could fly back into the states because I would have had to stay until testing negative but luckily it came back negative.
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Post by loftybike on Mar 27, 2022 18:57:58 GMT
We have around 350.000 cases per day right now and still our government is working on shutting down the mask mandate. It's completely bonkers. My husband is now wearing a FFP3 mask around me because I can't do FFP2 right now, I don't get enough air in and due to his underlying issue with MS, he really shouldn't get infected. We both have our own bedrooms and living rooms, which is alwys great but right now, it rocks.
I'm officially tested positive, today was a little better than yesterday, still I cough like crazy, have a fever and feel really weak.
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Post by greysfang on Apr 1, 2022 21:51:04 GMT
So I just scheduled my fourth shot for two weeks from now, which should be right before the 6th wave gets bad in the US.
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